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> And of course the average person here is probably a lot closer to taking a holiday trip in a submersible than to taking a refugee boat across the Mediterranea

> And of course the average person here is probably a lot closer to taking a holiday trip in a submersible than to taking a refugee boat across the Mediterranean. My opinion is the complete opposite, I think it has more coverage because it's a feel good event for 90% of the world who absolutely despise rich fucks in that specific part of the dumb X rich venn diagram I haven't seen a single post about how sad the sub story is... it's all memes and people amazed at how stupid humans can be

stef25 3y ago
It's not so much stupidity as knowingly embarking on a dangerous adventure for the purpose of fun, basically. Someone who took the trip before said they had to sign a waver which mentioned death multiple times. It's like climbing Everest, walking to the north pole, commercial space flights, base jumping etc. The med disaster was people embarking on a dangerous "adventure" out of what they perceived as being a necessity. Of course all lives should be regarded as being equal.
- lm28469 3y ago
  This all feels like a parody to be honest, at least previous explorers were.... exploring Now people _pay_ to be carried on the Everest, pay for a ticket to space, pay for a ticket to the titanic, &c. There is nothing left so they fight for the crumbs, looking for the next dumbest idea on the list
  - stef25 3y ago
    Yeah couldn't agree more. "Into thin air" about a disaster on Everest describes very well how some, if not most, of the people in the group had never been anywhere near a mountain half as challenging as Everest. Some even had brand new boots, which anyone with half a brain knows is a bad idea. A few did turn out to be tough bastards though, spending several days up there alone in a state of delirium and eventually making it back down on their own accord. Guardian also mentioned a Mexican Youtuber having taken the trip down to the Titanic in that titanium coffin, just for clicks & views.
- finitemonkey 3y ago
  > It's like climbing Everest, They died close to the shipwreck. Maybe the Titanic site will slowly fill up with corpses, just like Everest is doing. > Of course all lives should be regarded as being equal. Lives sure. But not deaths. Bringing yourself in a confirmed dangerous situation just for the thrill of it, even being so desperate for it as to pay what post people would dream of earning over multiple years, and then dying during this adventure ... in contrast to desperate refugees trying to escape into a better life and then dying because traffickers don't care about their survival.. Idk man, doesn't sound equal to me.
- sokoloff 3y ago
  I’ve signed “you could die” waivers several times in my life. That might be more a commentary on the state of our legal system than on my level of risk-seeking.
- x0x0 3y ago
  I read that more people have been to outer space than have been to the wreck of the Titanic. Anybody who didn't think this was an extremely dangerous thing to do was lying to themselves.
- climb_stealth 3y ago
  > Someone who took the trip before said they had to sign a waver which mentioned death multiple times. Just nitpicking here but this is quite normal. Any somewhat physically involved commercially offered activity has waivers to sign that mention potential death and that absolve the business from responsibility. Gyms for example do this.
stcroixx 3y ago
Exactly. Most people are bothered to see how rich folks like this waste money when most people struggle to survive. Being paid ok in tech does not make me feel any closer to the sort that spends 250k on a fun trip.

stef25 3y ago

It's not so much stupidity as knowingly embarking on a dangerous adventure for the purpose of fun, basically. Someone who took the trip before said they had to sign a waver which mentioned death multiple times. It's like climbing Everest, walking to the north pole, commercial space flights, base jumping etc. The med disaster was people embarking on a dangerous "adventure" out of what they perceived as being a necessity. Of course all lives should be regarded as being equal.

lm28469 3y ago
This all feels like a parody to be honest, at least previous explorers were.... exploring Now people _pay_ to be carried on the Everest, pay for a ticket to space, pay for a ticket to the titanic, &c. There is nothing left so they fight for the crumbs, looking for the next dumbest idea on the list
- stef25 3y ago
  Yeah couldn't agree more. "Into thin air" about a disaster on Everest describes very well how some, if not most, of the people in the group had never been anywhere near a mountain half as challenging as Everest. Some even had brand new boots, which anyone with half a brain knows is a bad idea. A few did turn out to be tough bastards though, spending several days up there alone in a state of delirium and eventually making it back down on their own accord. Guardian also mentioned a Mexican Youtuber having taken the trip down to the Titanic in that titanium coffin, just for clicks & views.
finitemonkey 3y ago
> It's like climbing Everest, They died close to the shipwreck. Maybe the Titanic site will slowly fill up with corpses, just like Everest is doing. > Of course all lives should be regarded as being equal. Lives sure. But not deaths. Bringing yourself in a confirmed dangerous situation just for the thrill of it, even being so desperate for it as to pay what post people would dream of earning over multiple years, and then dying during this adventure ... in contrast to desperate refugees trying to escape into a better life and then dying because traffickers don't care about their survival.. Idk man, doesn't sound equal to me.
sokoloff 3y ago
I’ve signed “you could die” waivers several times in my life. That might be more a commentary on the state of our legal system than on my level of risk-seeking.
x0x0 3y ago
I read that more people have been to outer space than have been to the wreck of the Titanic. Anybody who didn't think this was an extremely dangerous thing to do was lying to themselves.
climb_stealth 3y ago
> Someone who took the trip before said they had to sign a waver which mentioned death multiple times. Just nitpicking here but this is quite normal. Any somewhat physically involved commercially offered activity has waivers to sign that mention potential death and that absolve the business from responsibility. Gyms for example do this.

stcroixx 3y ago

Exactly. Most people are bothered to see how rich folks like this waste money when most people struggle to survive. Being paid ok in tech does not make me feel any closer to the sort that spends 250k on a fun trip.