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Society’s love of alcohol is literally thousands of years older than any notion of an associated alcohol industry. I’m quite sure the idea of some individuals “

Society’s love of alcohol is literally thousands of years older than any notion of an associated alcohol industry. I’m quite sure the idea of some individuals “not being able to hold their drink” is an ancient one, not an invention of alcohol marketing.

rstuart4133 3y ago
> Society’s love of alcohol is literally thousands of years older than any notion of an associated alcohol industry. True, for some society's. As it happens it not true for the Australian aboriginal, and they are the ones running amok when here is an abundance of it. This story is very typical of what happen in every aboriginal community in Australia. It's only news here because Alice Springs has a white population, who don't like the chaos it causes and raise a stink. You don't hear about it on HN, but the smaller Aboriginal communities often ban grog from their communities in response, and have persuaded the government to pass laws to make it enforceable. This isn't some minor advertising ban. This is "if you make a mistake and fly in with a bottle of wine in your plane, your up for thousands of dollars of fines even if it's never leaves the plan or is opened". Or to flip it around, Australia has the highest methamphetamine addiction rate in the world, leading to things like this: https://www.9news.com.au/national/r/6e676d3e-16b0-48de-86d7-15c9d2cbc466 https://www.9news.com.au/national/r/6e676d3e-16b0-48de-86d7-... Meth is a white Australia problem, not black. But if we let Darwin have his way, then I'm sure in a millennia or so it won't be the big problem is it now. But for now white Australia's response is to ban meth.
fragmede 3y ago
Given that money was invented before written history began, it doesn't seem obvious that there was no alcohol industry for "thousands of years" before alcohol. Do you have a source for that claim?
- joenot443 3y ago
  What does the alcohol industry in 0 AD look like to you? And do provide a source for that description.
  - Turing_Machine 3y ago
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-find-ancient-roman-vessel-near-sicily-180978313/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-fin... Second century BCE. If people are loading dozens of amphorae of wine on ships and transporting them from place to place, that's an industry.

rstuart4133 3y ago

> Society’s love of alcohol is literally thousands of years older than any notion of an associated alcohol industry. True, for some society's. As it happens it not true for the Australian aboriginal, and they are the ones running amok when here is an abundance of it. This story is very typical of what happen in every aboriginal community in Australia. It's only news here because Alice Springs has a white population, who don't like the chaos it causes and raise a stink. You don't hear about it on HN, but the smaller Aboriginal communities often ban grog from their communities in response, and have persuaded the government to pass laws to make it enforceable. This isn't some minor advertising ban. This is "if you make a mistake and fly in with a bottle of wine in your plane, your up for thousands of dollars of fines even if it's never leaves the plan or is opened". Or to flip it around, Australia has the highest methamphetamine addiction rate in the world, leading to things like this: https://www.9news.com.au/national/r/6e676d3e-16b0-48de-86d7-15c9d2cbc466 https://www.9news.com.au/national/r/6e676d3e-16b0-48de-86d7-... Meth is a white Australia problem, not black. But if we let Darwin have his way, then I'm sure in a millennia or so it won't be the big problem is it now. But for now white Australia's response is to ban meth.

fragmede 3y ago

Given that money was invented before written history began, it doesn't seem obvious that there was no alcohol industry for "thousands of years" before alcohol. Do you have a source for that claim?

joenot443 3y ago
What does the alcohol industry in 0 AD look like to you? And do provide a source for that description.
- Turing_Machine 3y ago
  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-find-ancient-roman-vessel-near-sicily-180978313/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/archaeologists-fin... Second century BCE. If people are loading dozens of amphorae of wine on ships and transporting them from place to place, that's an industry.