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Apropos of nothing, I learned (thanks to a recent Linus Tech Tips video) that Framework's DIY Edition laptops are preassembled for QA and then disassembled prio

Apropos of nothing, I learned (thanks to a recent Linus Tech Tips video) that Framework's DIY Edition laptops are preassembled for QA and then disassembled prior to shipping. I found that amusing. Not sure I could buy a DIY model knowing that.

nerdponx 3y ago
Would you rather them not do QA?
mynameisvlad 3y ago
Why does that matter? Most people buying them will likely use their own RAM, storage and OS anyway. And either way, you'd ostensibly want to make sure your computer is supposed to work once you assemble it yourself.
- mrtranscendence 3y ago
  I'm not sure I follow you here. I'm not saying that it should necessarily come with RAM, storage, and OS, which can be removed without disassembling the entire laptop. And I'm not making a statement one way or the other on whether you'll have to ensure your computer works. I'm only saying that it's funny to learn that Framework undergoes some effort to assemble and test the laptop only to undo that work so the buyer can assemble the entire thing. It might be for entirely good reasons, but that doesn't make it a bit funny prima facie.
  - mynameisvlad 3y ago
    > It might be for entirely good reasons, but that doesn't make it a bit funny prima facie. It might be funny, but your argument wasn't just that, it was that you wouldn't buy it because of this fact, which seems absurd. They're using known good hardware to make sure the parts they do send you will work. The hardware they're putting in and taking out prior to shipping will likely not even remotely be the parts you actually use since it's BYO. They're just there to make sure that what they do ship will work once assembled. As another commenter said, would you rather they didn't perform QA and just let the customer figure out that their mainboard is actually busted after spending time assembling it? That would be an exceptionally bad user experience.
chromakode 3y ago
I found that very funny as well. Built a DIY edition with my dad a few days later. It makes more sense if you're bringing your own SSD or RAM, and even so I've found there's still some value in the DIY assembly process as an introduction to the hardware.
globalreset 3y ago
They probably insert the same and known to work: storage, ram, etc. see if everything works, then remove them and insert them into the next model. The storage and ram you receive are pre-packaged and were QA-ed separately. It makes perfect sense, really.
- nrp 3y ago
  Yep, this is correct. The memory, storage, Input Cover, and Bezel are "turn parts" that temporarily carry along the manufacturing line on each DIY Edition unit so that the system can go through the full set of manual and automated testing and quality control. The modules you receive in a DIY Edition shipment are actually totally separate modules specific to your order that are also independently tested and packed out, and are dropped into the box when the order is being shipped out of the warehouse.
  - pests 3y ago
    Interesting! This was not communicated in the recent Linux video. He made it seem it was disassembled and then those exact parts boxed up.

nerdponx 3y ago

Would you rather them not do QA?

mynameisvlad 3y ago

Why does that matter? Most people buying them will likely use their own RAM, storage and OS anyway. And either way, you'd ostensibly want to make sure your computer is supposed to work once you assemble it yourself.

mrtranscendence 3y ago
I'm not sure I follow you here. I'm not saying that it should necessarily come with RAM, storage, and OS, which can be removed without disassembling the entire laptop. And I'm not making a statement one way or the other on whether you'll have to ensure your computer works. I'm only saying that it's funny to learn that Framework undergoes some effort to assemble and test the laptop only to undo that work so the buyer can assemble the entire thing. It might be for entirely good reasons, but that doesn't make it a bit funny prima facie.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  > It might be for entirely good reasons, but that doesn't make it a bit funny prima facie. It might be funny, but your argument wasn't just that, it was that you wouldn't buy it because of this fact, which seems absurd. They're using known good hardware to make sure the parts they do send you will work. The hardware they're putting in and taking out prior to shipping will likely not even remotely be the parts you actually use since it's BYO. They're just there to make sure that what they do ship will work once assembled. As another commenter said, would you rather they didn't perform QA and just let the customer figure out that their mainboard is actually busted after spending time assembling it? That would be an exceptionally bad user experience.

chromakode 3y ago

I found that very funny as well. Built a DIY edition with my dad a few days later. It makes more sense if you're bringing your own SSD or RAM, and even so I've found there's still some value in the DIY assembly process as an introduction to the hardware.

globalreset 3y ago

They probably insert the same and known to work: storage, ram, etc. see if everything works, then remove them and insert them into the next model. The storage and ram you receive are pre-packaged and were QA-ed separately. It makes perfect sense, really.

nrp 3y ago
Yep, this is correct. The memory, storage, Input Cover, and Bezel are "turn parts" that temporarily carry along the manufacturing line on each DIY Edition unit so that the system can go through the full set of manual and automated testing and quality control. The modules you receive in a DIY Edition shipment are actually totally separate modules specific to your order that are also independently tested and packed out, and are dropped into the box when the order is being shipped out of the warehouse.
- pests 3y ago
  Interesting! This was not communicated in the recent Linux video. He made it seem it was disassembled and then those exact parts boxed up.