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New safety tests reveal Tesla FSD still runs down child mannequins

8 points by Veserv 3y ago

Veserv 3y ago
Safety test livestream ongoing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9J7gLW2Bw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9J7gLW2Bw
Kirby64 3y ago
Isn't this the same company that is attempting to sell "software that never fails and can't be hacked" (an impossible claim)? And they're also working on their own competing self driving software, of which it appears to be vaporware currently? Why would I trust them? If I recall, they were doing some extremely shady stuff in their videos previously.
- Zigurd 3y ago
  Whatever you may think of the defense industry, Green Hills has decades of experience making software for high stakes environments, like missiles and fighter jets.
- Veserv 3y ago
  They do not work on self driving software. That is a complete fabrication peddled by Tesla investors/propagandists/zealots like WholeMarsBlog. It speaks to the reliability of the rest of their claims. There is nothing shady in any of the videos. Again, complete fabrications peddled by the same Tesla investors/propagandists/zealots. The aspect they all claim as “proof” is that the first TV ad contains footage where FSD was not enabled. The actual raw footage of the tests, supported by driver and cameraperson affidavits, sworn under penalty of perjury, has it enabled in all three crash videos. The footage in the ad was probably just trial run footage spliced into the ad. Again, the raw footage was released and even pro-Tesla news organizations [1] agree it was enabled. Here is the raw information if you want to see if for yourself: https://dawnproject.com/the-dawn-projects-new-advertising-campaign-highlighting-the-dangers-of-teslas-full-self-driving/ https://dawnproject.com/the-dawn-projects-new-advertising-ca... There are a half dozen other videos released afterwards. The only justification for why they are “shady” is that they claim the first one was falsified (which has been proven to be untrue now). [1] https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/raw-footage-shows-tesla-fsd-beta-was-active-during-the-dawn-projects-tests-video/ https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/raw-footage-shows-tesla-fsd...

8 points by Veserv 3y ago

Safety test livestream ongoing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9J7gLW2Bw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9J7gLW2Bw

Isn't this the same company that is attempting to sell "software that never fails and can't be hacked" (an impossible claim)? And they're also working on their own competing self driving software, of which it appears to be vaporware currently? Why would I trust them? If I recall, they were doing some extremely shady stuff in their videos previously.

Zigurd 3y ago
Whatever you may think of the defense industry, Green Hills has decades of experience making software for high stakes environments, like missiles and fighter jets.
Veserv 3y ago
They do not work on self driving software. That is a complete fabrication peddled by Tesla investors/propagandists/zealots like WholeMarsBlog. It speaks to the reliability of the rest of their claims. There is nothing shady in any of the videos. Again, complete fabrications peddled by the same Tesla investors/propagandists/zealots. The aspect they all claim as “proof” is that the first TV ad contains footage where FSD was not enabled. The actual raw footage of the tests, supported by driver and cameraperson affidavits, sworn under penalty of perjury, has it enabled in all three crash videos. The footage in the ad was probably just trial run footage spliced into the ad. Again, the raw footage was released and even pro-Tesla news organizations [1] agree it was enabled. Here is the raw information if you want to see if for yourself: https://dawnproject.com/the-dawn-projects-new-advertising-campaign-highlighting-the-dangers-of-teslas-full-self-driving/ https://dawnproject.com/the-dawn-projects-new-advertising-ca... There are a half dozen other videos released afterwards. The only justification for why they are “shady” is that they claim the first one was falsified (which has been proven to be untrue now). [1] https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/raw-footage-shows-tesla-fsd-beta-was-active-during-the-dawn-projects-tests-video/ https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/raw-footage-shows-tesla-fsd...