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As a Fedora user, I like this. People who want to use RHEL should pay and there should be no way around that so I can use my Fedora for free. Good job!

by zb3 3y ago

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
Er, what? You're glad they're stopping other freeloaders so that you can be a freeloader instead? Is this satire?
- josephcsible 3y ago
  I think the intended sentiment is "if you don't want to pay, then you should have to run (and so help test) the new bleeding-edge thing, instead of using the old stable enterprise thing."
- zb3 3y ago
  I'm an individual freeloader, but I occasionally report bugs. I understand that I might encounter bugs and/or provide some free contributions to Red Hat, but that's in exchange for a well functioning desktop distribution. Now, if the commercial product is the stability itself(!), why 'd you expect that stability for free? Why should Red Hat customers pay for other, non-paying enterprise users?
  - justinclift 3y ago
    So, the people who put their time and effort into the upstream projects which RHEL uses (without paying them), you're saying those people are freeloaders if they want to build things on Alma or Rocky Linux? What about the CentOS users who report bugs, or help out with (say) writing RHEL docs without getting paid? You're saying they're freeloaders too? That sounds like a pretty crappy viewpoint to me, as I used to do all of the above. I did personally read the writing on the wall correctly though, with the previous major "CentOS 8 Stream" change (after the IBM acquisition). So, switched all of my stuff away from Red Hat based software at that point.
5e92cb50239222b 3y ago
You know they won't. Anyone who really needs RHEL is already paying for the real thing. I reckon the main thing this brings is people moving en masse off RHEL-based distributions and a significant reduction in market- and mind-share over the long term. It also feels like a moment of opportunity for SUSE, but they seem quiet.

As a Fedora user, I like this. People who want to use RHEL should pay and there should be no way around that so I can use my Fedora for free. Good job!

by zb3 3y ago

As a Fedora user, I like this. People who want to use RHEL should pay and there should be no way around that so I can use my Fedora for free. Good job!

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

Er, what? You're glad they're stopping other freeloaders so that you can be a freeloader instead? Is this satire?

josephcsible 3y ago
I think the intended sentiment is "if you don't want to pay, then you should have to run (and so help test) the new bleeding-edge thing, instead of using the old stable enterprise thing."
zb3 3y ago
I'm an individual freeloader, but I occasionally report bugs. I understand that I might encounter bugs and/or provide some free contributions to Red Hat, but that's in exchange for a well functioning desktop distribution. Now, if the commercial product is the stability itself(!), why 'd you expect that stability for free? Why should Red Hat customers pay for other, non-paying enterprise users?
- justinclift 3y ago
  So, the people who put their time and effort into the upstream projects which RHEL uses (without paying them), you're saying those people are freeloaders if they want to build things on Alma or Rocky Linux? What about the CentOS users who report bugs, or help out with (say) writing RHEL docs without getting paid? You're saying they're freeloaders too? That sounds like a pretty crappy viewpoint to me, as I used to do all of the above. I did personally read the writing on the wall correctly though, with the previous major "CentOS 8 Stream" change (after the IBM acquisition). So, switched all of my stuff away from Red Hat based software at that point.

5e92cb50239222b 3y ago

You know they won't. Anyone who really needs RHEL is already paying for the real thing. I reckon the main thing this brings is people moving en masse off RHEL-based distributions and a significant reduction in market- and mind-share over the long term. It also feels like a moment of opportunity for SUSE, but they seem quiet.