Maybe the issue is that the real world is highly complex, and people have a hard time coming to grips with that complexity? For example, this post starts of wi

Maybe the issue is that the real world is highly complex, and people have a hard time coming to grips with that complexity? For example, this post starts of with the subject of vaccine safety and efficacy, but what would it take to have an actual expert-level discussion of the issue? Consider: the mammalian immune system is almost ridiculously complex, consisting of a variety of subsystems which interact with each other and which is still not completely understood (e.g. nervous system - immune system interactions are probably important but are still poorly understood). Vaccination is an attempt to train this system to recognize a particular foreign invader without actually having to get infected with a dangerous pathogen. Pretending such efforts can't go wrong or lead to unintended reactions can be categorized as disinformation, I think. What I'd expect from a vaccine expert is knowledge of the top ten most successful vaccination efforts and the ten greatest failures of vaccination efforts, including a detailed understanding of what went right and what went wrong in each case - as well as comprehensive understanding of the current state-of-knowledge in the immunology field. A lack of major conflict-of-interest associations with either the pharmaceutical (vaccine defender) or the class-action-lawsuit (vaccine opponent) sectors would also be encouraging. Incidentally, the post claims Covid vaccines are safe and effective, but it does seem that at least later mutations of the virus allowed it to happily infect and be transmitted by vaccinated individuals, with the caveat that the severity of symptoms seems to have been reduced - but good luck getting anyone to comprehensively discuss this from a pure science perspective, let alone the highly contentious issue of the severity and frequency of undesirable side effects (which appear fairly low, but data seems restricted on the clinical trials, leading to uncertainties).