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Here's my question for you: Let's assume that in our current reality, U.S. agencies did not detect an anomalous sound. So what we've observed is how they would
by danso 3y ago
Here's my question for you:
Let's assume that in our current reality, U.S. agencies did not detect an anomalous sound. So what we've observed is how they would operate if they had zero foreknowledge or data other than the initial report to the Coast Guard.
Now imagine the alternate scenario in which Navy or NOAA buoys pick up a suspicious sound near the Titanic. There might be a flurry of U.S. gov activity (e.g. communication between NOAA, the military, and intelligence agencies) to make sure it's not a Russian sub, but that would be completely hidden to the public, and for all we know, is something that happens relatively routinely.
In this alternate scenario, what would change about how the Navy, Coast Guard, or any other U.S. official has responded? Coast Guard rescue ships would still conduct search-and-rescue, the Navy would still send a deep sea salvage ship. You honestly think the Navy would volunteer information about an intelligence report that, as far as they know, may or may not be related to a now-missing civilian sub?
- psychphysic 3y agoIn the second scenario the Russell's teapot satellite the Soviets put into space would have picked up the uptick in US military Comms. Maybe they kept it quiet to not reveal the satellite was still operational? I doubt it given the current situation, mostly likely it'd be all over telegram and we'd have known about it.
- danso 3y agoWhat would that have to do with anything?
- psychphysic 3y agoRussell's teapot is a criticism of non-falsifiable claims https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot#Analysis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot#Analysis
- danso 3y agoOk, but for posterity’s sake, the Navy has now said that they did in fact hear the implosion: https://archive.is/pSpem https://archive.is/pSpem > The Navy began listening for the Titan almost as soon as the sub lost communications, according to a U.S. defense official. Shortly after its disappearance, the U.S. system detected what it suspected was the sound of an implosion near the debris site discovered Thursday and reported its findings to the commander on site, U.S. defense officials said.
- psychphysic 3y agoDon't you think it's weird how you'd thought it'd be secret capability and never disclosed. Instead they leaked it once the debris was found?
- danso 3y agoLOL. C'mon man, you're the only one here who thought this was some kind of super secret capability. My entire premise is that this was a logically foregone conclusion based on what we know of their decades-old systems and the laws of physics with respect to how sound travels in water. As for why they revealed their foreknowledge now? I don't speak for the military, but admitting to it vaguely, well after the fact is a significantly different situation than talking about it at the time and making it actionable intelligence. Furthermore, something may have leaked to a journalist, who then pressed them to make some kind of answer.
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