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I work for unsexy manufacturing company. I haven't been to the office and we agreed I'm remote first. If recruiter messages me about "Hot company but onsite",

by avgDev 3y ago

I work for unsexy manufacturing company. I haven't been to the office and we agreed I'm remote first. If recruiter messages me about "Hot company but onsite", I just ignore it. I honestly don't care about the company. At this point I care about 1-Remote 2-Money.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago
>I work for unsexy manufacturing company. In which country? I had an interview for a SW dev position at a Austrian (Europe, not kangaroos) company that manufactures some high tech shit and they said it's 100% in office because if production workers need to be on the factory floor, then it's only fair that so does everyone else, no exceptions, including the SW devs. I'm struggling to find companies that offer 100% WFH here. Every single company mandates you in the office at least a few days a week here and why I ask them I get the answer "because Covid is over so we're back to normal now and we're more productive when everyone is in the office".
- odiroot 3y ago
  > if production workers need to be on the factory floor, then it's only fair that so does everyone else, no exceptions, including the SW devs. That's a common culture in Germanic companies. Hey at least everyone is equally miserable.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  > they said it's 100% in office because if production workers need to be on the factory floor, then it's only fair that so does everyone else, no exceptions, including the SW devs. Did you ask them if everyone gets paid the same too, including the owners, and if not, how is that fair?
- skinnymuch 3y ago
  Classic capitalist bourgeoisie tactic blaming exploited workers against one another.
- avgDev 3y ago
  I'm in US. Remote is considered a part of the package for me. Why should I care a factory worker or manager needs to be there? I did variety of jobs that required me to be onsite all the time, hence why I switched to computers/programming. I might be switching to a hybrid model, where I go in for meetings as I will be taking a more of a leadership role. However, if I'm programming office is just not a good place to be, as it is harder for me to focus.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    Same. Remote or hybrid is a given for many IT or Dev roles. Factory, data center, and a few "owner" roles are expected to be on site. Makes sense for these to be on site, and they should have compensation and amenities (e.g. an office, or a nice cube, or whatever) to justify it.

by avgDev 3y ago

ChuckNorris89 3y ago

>I work for unsexy manufacturing company. In which country? I had an interview for a SW dev position at a Austrian (Europe, not kangaroos) company that manufactures some high tech shit and they said it's 100% in office because if production workers need to be on the factory floor, then it's only fair that so does everyone else, no exceptions, including the SW devs. I'm struggling to find companies that offer 100% WFH here. Every single company mandates you in the office at least a few days a week here and why I ask them I get the answer "because Covid is over so we're back to normal now and we're more productive when everyone is in the office".

odiroot 3y ago
> if production workers need to be on the factory floor, then it's only fair that so does everyone else, no exceptions, including the SW devs. That's a common culture in Germanic companies. Hey at least everyone is equally miserable.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
> they said it's 100% in office because if production workers need to be on the factory floor, then it's only fair that so does everyone else, no exceptions, including the SW devs. Did you ask them if everyone gets paid the same too, including the owners, and if not, how is that fair?
skinnymuch 3y ago
Classic capitalist bourgeoisie tactic blaming exploited workers against one another.
avgDev 3y ago
I'm in US. Remote is considered a part of the package for me. Why should I care a factory worker or manager needs to be there? I did variety of jobs that required me to be onsite all the time, hence why I switched to computers/programming. I might be switching to a hybrid model, where I go in for meetings as I will be taking a more of a leadership role. However, if I'm programming office is just not a good place to be, as it is harder for me to focus.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  Same. Remote or hybrid is a given for many IT or Dev roles. Factory, data center, and a few "owner" roles are expected to be on site. Makes sense for these to be on site, and they should have compensation and amenities (e.g. an office, or a nice cube, or whatever) to justify it.