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> how about mandating ISPs to make IP addresses unmappable to a user? I can't see how this would work in practice: you'd still have the same IP when visiting s

> how about mandating ISPs to make IP addresses unmappable to a user? I can't see how this would work in practice: you'd still have the same IP when visiting site A where your real identity is known, and site B where you didn't give them consent to access your information. The only reasonable course of action is to classify your IP as an identifying info, as site A and B exchanging info would result in your exposure (or site A and B being the same site, but you logged as different users...) Perhaps your point was on giving user different IPs for every site, potentially for every request, but then the consequences would have to be handled worldwide.

jansan 3y ago
Well, let's just take a look at the most benign case where a site owner was sued and convicted by simply using Google Fonts without any bad intentions and without selling or transfering any other data to Google. To Google your IP address will be worthless unless they get any link to your identity, so it solved those really simple cases where site owners accidentially violate the GDPR without any bad intentions and have to fear being sues by some random idiot in court.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  I see it from two angles: - on the benign intent and accidental violation: is it natural to go load fonts from a third party service in the first place ? I get why we arrived at this point, but hosting yourself the base resources you're using for your site shouldn't feel like some huge burden or leap from the norm. If we really see a shared benefit to having fonts on some common platform, I'd also wish it wasn't Google. Perhaps Cloudflare or Fastly ? - on IP being worthless to Google: is the "unless they get any link to your identity" even hypothetical ? I am a paying Google customer and extensively use their service. And we all do to some extent; trying the "let me live my daily life but block and avoid anything that touches Google" game would still be as critically punishing today as it was 4 or 5 years ago.
- martin_a 3y ago
  > To Google your IP address will be worthless unless they get any link to your identity Not true. Google is used so widely that they can track and profile me all over the internet, because they can easily combine on which page I've requested fonts from them. And once I log into YouTube, they can link all those information about medical conditions I googled directly to me personally.

jansan 3y ago

Well, let's just take a look at the most benign case where a site owner was sued and convicted by simply using Google Fonts without any bad intentions and without selling or transfering any other data to Google. To Google your IP address will be worthless unless they get any link to your identity, so it solved those really simple cases where site owners accidentially violate the GDPR without any bad intentions and have to fear being sues by some random idiot in court.

makeitdouble 3y ago
I see it from two angles: - on the benign intent and accidental violation: is it natural to go load fonts from a third party service in the first place ? I get why we arrived at this point, but hosting yourself the base resources you're using for your site shouldn't feel like some huge burden or leap from the norm. If we really see a shared benefit to having fonts on some common platform, I'd also wish it wasn't Google. Perhaps Cloudflare or Fastly ? - on IP being worthless to Google: is the "unless they get any link to your identity" even hypothetical ? I am a paying Google customer and extensively use their service. And we all do to some extent; trying the "let me live my daily life but block and avoid anything that touches Google" game would still be as critically punishing today as it was 4 or 5 years ago.
martin_a 3y ago
> To Google your IP address will be worthless unless they get any link to your identity Not true. Google is used so widely that they can track and profile me all over the internet, because they can easily combine on which page I've requested fonts from them. And once I log into YouTube, they can link all those information about medical conditions I googled directly to me personally.