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It's the difference between paying to have a public school system, and paying to send people's kids wherever they like. It's not necessarily hypocrisy to be OK

by bamfly 3y ago

It's the difference between paying to have a public school system, and paying to send people's kids wherever they like. It's not necessarily hypocrisy to be OK with the former (wanting to live in a society that has public schools available to all, and being willing to pay for that) and not OK with the latter.

alphanullmeric 3y ago
There is no difference between you forcing me to pay for one thing and me forcing you to pay for another. whether or not it is voluntary doesn’t depend on who it benefits.
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- bamfly 3y ago
  I shouldn't need to point this out, but this is plainly nonsense. Do you not see how people might not mind paying for e.g. a public park even if they don't personally use it, but might object to paying the exact same amount of money to upgrade the pool at a country club they're not a member of? There absolutely is a difference. If there were no difference, why would we ever argue over how public money is spent? It's all the same, right?
  - alphanullmeric 3y ago
    There is no difference to whether or not it is forced, not whether or not you support it.
    - singleshot_ 3y ago
      If I forced you to pay a dollar for a bag of M&Ms and you forced me to pay a dollar to cut off my foot with a chainsaw, would that be exactly the same thing? Why or why not? Of course, we have both forced each other to do something... (which is to say I not sure I believe that I have gotten the point of this conversation across to you effectively, which is unfortunate).
      - alphanullmeric 3y ago
        Did you read this part? > There is no difference to whether or not it is forced
        singleshot_ 3y ago
        This quote was not present in your original post. Accordingly, no, I did not read it. You said "There is no difference" but of course, there is. I could tell you what the difference is, but then I would have been successfully trolled, so I think I'll just leave the rest to you. Good luck!

by bamfly 3y ago

alphanullmeric 3y ago

There is no difference between you forcing me to pay for one thing and me forcing you to pay for another. whether or not it is voluntary doesn’t depend on who it benefits.

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bamfly 3y ago
I shouldn't need to point this out, but this is plainly nonsense. Do you not see how people might not mind paying for e.g. a public park even if they don't personally use it, but might object to paying the exact same amount of money to upgrade the pool at a country club they're not a member of? There absolutely is a difference. If there were no difference, why would we ever argue over how public money is spent? It's all the same, right?
- alphanullmeric 3y ago
  There is no difference to whether or not it is forced, not whether or not you support it.
  - singleshot_ 3y ago
    If I forced you to pay a dollar for a bag of M&Ms and you forced me to pay a dollar to cut off my foot with a chainsaw, would that be exactly the same thing? Why or why not? Of course, we have both forced each other to do something... (which is to say I not sure I believe that I have gotten the point of this conversation across to you effectively, which is unfortunate).
    - alphanullmeric 3y ago
      Did you read this part? > There is no difference to whether or not it is forced
      - singleshot_ 3y ago
        This quote was not present in your original post. Accordingly, no, I did not read it. You said "There is no difference" but of course, there is. I could tell you what the difference is, but then I would have been successfully trolled, so I think I'll just leave the rest to you. Good luck!