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>..., it depends what those violations are. It decidedly does not. To quote Kovarex, a Factorio dev: “If Stalin had a good writeup on programming, would linkin

>..., it depends what those violations are. It decidedly does not. To quote Kovarex, a Factorio dev: “If Stalin had a good writeup on programming, would linking that be dangerous?” [1] I believe VERY strongly in separating the art from the artist. [1]https://old.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/o2ly6f/friday_facts_366_the_only_way_to_go_fast_is_to_go/h276k7b/ https://old.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/o2ly6f/friday_fac...

Voultapher 3y ago
You seem to be conflating reading an idea and working together. If Stalin had some good programming idea, that idea itself isn't tainted. I wouldn't mind using a library that incorporates that idea. However I would never want to work with him together on a project. A common theme in this discussion seems to be the delusion that working together on code is some pure abstract thing without any emotions or personality involved. Even something as basic as how to name stuff is deeply emotional. And there exists the whole surrounding aspect of communication and coordination. And in regards to the dangerous part, there is a very real danger in giving people a platform and potentially promoting them. If a known white suprematist draws beautiful pictures, I wouldn't want them at my art gallery. Their world views are so strongly incompatible with mine that I don't want to help them become more popular, even by proxy.
- account42 3y ago
  > A common theme in this discussion seems to be the delusion that working together on code is some pure abstract thing without any emotions or personality involved. Yes, strive towards that. If you can't keep your emotions in check, seek help with that instead of taking it out on people you are emotional about. > And in regards to the dangerous part, there is a very real danger in giving people a platform and potentially promoting them. Deplatforming based on feelings and especially the normalization of that is a much much much bigger danger. Don't expect to always be on the good sides of those holding the power even if you are now. > Their world views are so strongly incompatible with mine that I don't want to help them become more popular, even by proxy. If their world views don't affect their contributions to the project then that's squarely a you problem.
beej71 3y ago
Yes, it would definitely be dangerous, but not in the way Kovarex is thinking of. There's a reason you wouldn't be able to find a link to it on any corporate webpage, right?

Voultapher 3y ago

You seem to be conflating reading an idea and working together. If Stalin had some good programming idea, that idea itself isn't tainted. I wouldn't mind using a library that incorporates that idea. However I would never want to work with him together on a project. A common theme in this discussion seems to be the delusion that working together on code is some pure abstract thing without any emotions or personality involved. Even something as basic as how to name stuff is deeply emotional. And there exists the whole surrounding aspect of communication and coordination. And in regards to the dangerous part, there is a very real danger in giving people a platform and potentially promoting them. If a known white suprematist draws beautiful pictures, I wouldn't want them at my art gallery. Their world views are so strongly incompatible with mine that I don't want to help them become more popular, even by proxy.

account42 3y ago
> A common theme in this discussion seems to be the delusion that working together on code is some pure abstract thing without any emotions or personality involved. Yes, strive towards that. If you can't keep your emotions in check, seek help with that instead of taking it out on people you are emotional about. > And in regards to the dangerous part, there is a very real danger in giving people a platform and potentially promoting them. Deplatforming based on feelings and especially the normalization of that is a much much much bigger danger. Don't expect to always be on the good sides of those holding the power even if you are now. > Their world views are so strongly incompatible with mine that I don't want to help them become more popular, even by proxy. If their world views don't affect their contributions to the project then that's squarely a you problem.

beej71 3y ago

Yes, it would definitely be dangerous, but not in the way Kovarex is thinking of. There's a reason you wouldn't be able to find a link to it on any corporate webpage, right?