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There was no coup attempt in the US. Trump was legitimately elected, and proved to be competent as a president, if somewhat weak due to opposition from the entr

There was no coup attempt in the US. Trump was legitimately elected, and proved to be competent as a president, if somewhat weak due to opposition from the entrenched bureaucracy ("deep state"). He was certainly less of a warmonger than his immediate predecessors or successors, for which the world should be grateful. All the hysteria about him proved to be just that.

wholinator2 3y ago
Well we can't say he didn't do anything strange. Firing huge portions of the state department to replace them with loyalists, attempting to dismantle the EPA (the only agency keeping track of aging nuclear submarines and, you know, that whole climate change thing), exiting the Iran nuclear deal for essentially nothing. Those are just from the top of my head but apart from the constant social faux-pas being signal boosted to the entire world, there was a very long chain of legitimately frightening actions that led to fears about him being relatively justified. Then there's the whole "big lie" and all the actions leading up to it. No one could rightly say he _wasn't_ attempting to seize continued power. I don't think it was like a full military coup, but there were definitely concerning actions
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Also, despite his stupid rhetoric, his diplomacy facing China was so miserably bad that they now own military bases all over the world and are set up to challenge us with more than just saber rattling. Repeating "China is so bad" into a microphone a thousand times turns out isn't actual leadership.
- superq 3y ago
  > the only agency keeping track of aging nuclear submarines citation needed. Even the EPA's own page provides the actual agency "keeping track" of them: https://www.epa.gov/radtown/nuclear-submarines-and-aircraft-carriers https://www.epa.gov/radtown/nuclear-submarines-and-aircraft-... (hint: it's the DOD and Navy, right at the top of "where to learn more")

wholinator2 3y ago

Well we can't say he didn't do anything strange. Firing huge portions of the state department to replace them with loyalists, attempting to dismantle the EPA (the only agency keeping track of aging nuclear submarines and, you know, that whole climate change thing), exiting the Iran nuclear deal for essentially nothing. Those are just from the top of my head but apart from the constant social faux-pas being signal boosted to the entire world, there was a very long chain of legitimately frightening actions that led to fears about him being relatively justified. Then there's the whole "big lie" and all the actions leading up to it. No one could rightly say he _wasn't_ attempting to seize continued power. I don't think it was like a full military coup, but there were definitely concerning actions

mrguyorama 3y ago
Also, despite his stupid rhetoric, his diplomacy facing China was so miserably bad that they now own military bases all over the world and are set up to challenge us with more than just saber rattling. Repeating "China is so bad" into a microphone a thousand times turns out isn't actual leadership.
superq 3y ago
> the only agency keeping track of aging nuclear submarines citation needed. Even the EPA's own page provides the actual agency "keeping track" of them: https://www.epa.gov/radtown/nuclear-submarines-and-aircraft-carriers https://www.epa.gov/radtown/nuclear-submarines-and-aircraft-... (hint: it's the DOD and Navy, right at the top of "where to learn more")