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> spend up to 2k per month on an apartment Only if you're a relentless hunter. Otherwise it looks more like >2.5k CHF monthly. 400-500 CHF monthly on health in

> spend up to 2k per month on an apartment Only if you're a relentless hunter. Otherwise it looks more like >2.5k CHF monthly. 400-500 CHF monthly on health insurance, 500 CHF monthly for random tickets, fees, fines, and other "disciplinary measures". Suddenly you find yourself being poor in Switzerland. Being poor among rich hurts multiplied.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago
>Being poor among rich hurts multiplied. Depends. Sure, it hurts your ego being "poor" in a super rich country, but that has the advantages of being safe everywhere, not being stabbed for wearing a nice watch, having access to the best medical care in the world, a reliable insurance and justice system for when things go wrong, clean air and drinking/bathing water, a high trust society where you're not afraid of being scammed everywhere or leaving your door open at night, not afraid that anyone will shoot you in your school, etc. Some people would rather be dirt poor in Zurich, than filthy rich in Zimbabwe.
- expertentipp 3y ago
  Once you pay 200 EUR/CHF for kitchen sink piping or 500 EUR/CHF for locksmith you quickly lose track was is a scam and what isn't.
  - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
    Prices in Germany and Austria are not that much lower for handymen and locksmiths, unless you already have "a guy". Ultimately it's supply and demand. It's the consequence of everyone wanting to be a latte sipping WFH laptop worker, instead of a contractor/handyman. Also, worth considering that locksmiths charge crazy money because they basically work shit hours and have to deal with shitty customers. You're basically on call 24/7, on the road a lot, and most of your customers who call you are party people who realize they lost their keys when they get home from the bar/club at 2AM on a Saturday night/Sunday morning and call you desperately trying to get into their house, and once you do open their door they start to bitch, moan and can even get aggressive refusing to pay, because you're charging too much money for "5 minutes of work". Sure, maybe you make a solid thousand Euros that night, but you basically fucked your weekend. Not great work/life balance IMHO, which is why not so many do it.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago

>Being poor among rich hurts multiplied. Depends. Sure, it hurts your ego being "poor" in a super rich country, but that has the advantages of being safe everywhere, not being stabbed for wearing a nice watch, having access to the best medical care in the world, a reliable insurance and justice system for when things go wrong, clean air and drinking/bathing water, a high trust society where you're not afraid of being scammed everywhere or leaving your door open at night, not afraid that anyone will shoot you in your school, etc. Some people would rather be dirt poor in Zurich, than filthy rich in Zimbabwe.

expertentipp 3y ago
Once you pay 200 EUR/CHF for kitchen sink piping or 500 EUR/CHF for locksmith you quickly lose track was is a scam and what isn't.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  Prices in Germany and Austria are not that much lower for handymen and locksmiths, unless you already have "a guy". Ultimately it's supply and demand. It's the consequence of everyone wanting to be a latte sipping WFH laptop worker, instead of a contractor/handyman. Also, worth considering that locksmiths charge crazy money because they basically work shit hours and have to deal with shitty customers. You're basically on call 24/7, on the road a lot, and most of your customers who call you are party people who realize they lost their keys when they get home from the bar/club at 2AM on a Saturday night/Sunday morning and call you desperately trying to get into their house, and once you do open their door they start to bitch, moan and can even get aggressive refusing to pay, because you're charging too much money for "5 minutes of work". Sure, maybe you make a solid thousand Euros that night, but you basically fucked your weekend. Not great work/life balance IMHO, which is why not so many do it.