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>One developer behind Invidious explains in an open letter that Google is wrong and that they will not comply with the request to shut down Invidious. The argum

by veave 3y ago

>One developer behind Invidious explains in an open letter that Google is wrong and that they will not comply with the request to shut down Invidious. The argumentation: Google appears unaware that Invidious is not using YouTube's official APIs for providing its service. Since Invidious does not use a programming interface from YouTube, it is not bound by the conditions that Google states in their cease-and-desist letter. It's amusing when people try to use a technical argument to explain why the law doesn't apply to them.

lrvick 3y ago
It literally does not apply to them though. They effectively write an ad blocking proxy for Youtube. It is open source and decentralized. Google has no way to stop this and they are desperate. Anyone can contribute code to the project anonymously from any country they want. This will go about as well as the silly attempts to stop youtube-dl.
- veave 3y ago
  Google can use the DMCA to shut down all repositories, all hosts, and put this guy in living hell.
  - sledgehammers 3y ago
    AKA abuse their monopoly. Kudos to this guy. Disobedience is a requirement for a change in a broken system.
  - lrvick 3y ago
    Plenty of servers, countries, and decentralized networks operate outside the reach of DMCA without issue. See: thepiratebay Also there is always Tor, IPFS, freenet... etc etc. It is super easy to host anything you want on the internet and collaborate around it these days anonymously. If push comes to shove the team can just fork to a -smilar- project with the critical youtube-connectivity function removed as an academic project, that users just happen to download and apply a small community patch to on the fly. All kinds of games you can play. Google will lose this battle badly. Code is speech.
chinaman425 3y ago
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Brian_K_White 3y ago
It's amusing when people allow a technical argument to be used for offense but not for defense. All of law is a technical argument.

by veave 3y ago

lrvick 3y ago

It literally does not apply to them though. They effectively write an ad blocking proxy for Youtube. It is open source and decentralized. Google has no way to stop this and they are desperate. Anyone can contribute code to the project anonymously from any country they want. This will go about as well as the silly attempts to stop youtube-dl.

veave 3y ago
Google can use the DMCA to shut down all repositories, all hosts, and put this guy in living hell.
- sledgehammers 3y ago
  AKA abuse their monopoly. Kudos to this guy. Disobedience is a requirement for a change in a broken system.
- lrvick 3y ago
  Plenty of servers, countries, and decentralized networks operate outside the reach of DMCA without issue. See: thepiratebay Also there is always Tor, IPFS, freenet... etc etc. It is super easy to host anything you want on the internet and collaborate around it these days anonymously. If push comes to shove the team can just fork to a -smilar- project with the critical youtube-connectivity function removed as an academic project, that users just happen to download and apply a small community patch to on the fly. All kinds of games you can play. Google will lose this battle badly. Code is speech.

chinaman425 3y ago

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Brian_K_White 3y ago

It's amusing when people allow a technical argument to be used for offense but not for defense. All of law is a technical argument.