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I don’t suppose Apple has any plans to support the open standard that every other hardware maker supports: https://www.khronos.org/api/index_2017/openxr https:

by pavlov 3y ago

I don’t suppose Apple has any plans to support the open standard that every other hardware maker supports: https://www.khronos.org/api/index_2017/openxr https://www.khronos.org/api/index_2017/openxr

jsheard 3y ago
Don't hold your breath on that one https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F6ns6I3zs-2JL_dT9hOkX_253vEtKxuUkTGvxpuv8Ac/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F6ns6I3zs-2JL_dT9hOkX_25... > Apple is not comfortable working under Khronos IP framework, because of dispute between Apple Legal & Khronos which is private. Can’t talk about the substance of this dispute. Can’t make any statement for Apple to agree to Khronos IP framework.
cmelbye 3y ago
I'm confused about this and related comments (it doesn't support Unreal, etc.) There is probably something that I'm missing here. What is technically preventing Unreal/OpenXR/etc. apps from running on Vision Pro?
- dns_snek 3y ago
  From what I understand, OpenXR is a common interface that needs to be implemented by the headset manufacturer. If Apple doesn't do this, OpenXR apps won't work. Before OpenXR every headset had its own interface. Valve and descendants have SteamVR, Oculus has its own runtime, Microsoft and descendants have Windows Mixed Reality. Games/Apps targeting these platforms used to have to implement each one of these interfaces separately if they wanted to support that family of headsets. OpenXR shifts the responsibility onto the headset manufacturer, from my limited understanding. edit: I don't understand why this is being downvoted? If there is a technical detail I got wrong, I'd welcome an explanation rather than Reddit-esque downvotes.
  - t8sr 3y ago
    This is the correct answer, despite being downvoted. What’s technically preventing OpenXR apps from working? Vision Pro doesn’t implement OpenXR.
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by pavlov 3y ago

jsheard 3y ago

Don't hold your breath on that one https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F6ns6I3zs-2JL_dT9hOkX_253vEtKxuUkTGvxpuv8Ac/edit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F6ns6I3zs-2JL_dT9hOkX_25... > Apple is not comfortable working under Khronos IP framework, because of dispute between Apple Legal & Khronos which is private. Can’t talk about the substance of this dispute. Can’t make any statement for Apple to agree to Khronos IP framework.

cmelbye 3y ago

I'm confused about this and related comments (it doesn't support Unreal, etc.) There is probably something that I'm missing here. What is technically preventing Unreal/OpenXR/etc. apps from running on Vision Pro?

dns_snek 3y ago
From what I understand, OpenXR is a common interface that needs to be implemented by the headset manufacturer. If Apple doesn't do this, OpenXR apps won't work. Before OpenXR every headset had its own interface. Valve and descendants have SteamVR, Oculus has its own runtime, Microsoft and descendants have Windows Mixed Reality. Games/Apps targeting these platforms used to have to implement each one of these interfaces separately if they wanted to support that family of headsets. OpenXR shifts the responsibility onto the headset manufacturer, from my limited understanding. edit: I don't understand why this is being downvoted? If there is a technical detail I got wrong, I'd welcome an explanation rather than Reddit-esque downvotes.
- t8sr 3y ago
  This is the correct answer, despite being downvoted. What’s technically preventing OpenXR apps from working? Vision Pro doesn’t implement OpenXR.
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