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All photos are edited in their taking. As such, all images represent a "fake" reality. The only difference between an AI "fake" image and photograph is the came

All photos are edited in their taking. As such, all images represent a "fake" reality. The only difference between an AI "fake" image and photograph is the camera.

Tepix 3y ago
That's a lonely hill to die on..
- A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
  << As such, all images represent a "fake" reality. Parent may not be expressing it right, but he does have a point. There is a level of 'interpretation' that is being done during the taking of a picture. If you add to this recent attempts to incorporate AI into picture taking to add/remove parts thereof all of a sudden parent's proposition does not sound so far fetched. Granted, it is still a different level than just generating an image from a prompt, but I would not dismiss the thought outright.
- parineum 3y ago
  It's a rather extreme view but there is a lot that can be done with photography that can be very misleading. If you see a photo that seems incredible, it might be. People's general skepticism of photos is too low, AI might bring that skepticism a bit higher which I think would be a good thing. You can think of a photo like a news article, the author can be completely truthful while omitting certain facts to give a false impression. The same can be done with how a photo is framed, cropped and processed. The intent of a photographer can definitely be translated into the photograph or it wouldn't be an artform.
- bandrami 3y ago
  No, it's a point people forget. Even 20 years ago people were asking "is this photo photoshopped?", but if you're viewing it on a webpage, it has absolutely been photoshopped. The problem is we aren't good at specifying what we mean by "photoshopped". Any photo you view has been digitally altered, getting more specific gets into the alterer's intent which gets really messy really quick.
  - Tepix 3y ago
    What difference does it make if it was digitally altered or in an analogue fashion? A slightly longer exposure is also not showing reality as seen by human eyes. Besides, there is no single reality even among humans.
tsukikage 3y ago
There's a difference between what happens when you point a regular digital camera at the moon and take a photo and what happens when you do that with a Samsung Space Zoom phone. Most people believe that difference is an important one.
Kaibeezy 3y ago
If “sight” is perceptually completed in the visual cortex, then everything we see is “fake”. - Mr. Magoo
- justinjlynn 3y ago
  The actual question to ask isn't "is this fake?" it's "how is this record likely to have been manipulated or constructed and whom does it serve?"

All photos are edited in their taking. As such, all images represent a "fake" reality. The only difference between an AI "fake" image and photograph is the camera.

Tepix 3y ago

That's a lonely hill to die on..

A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
<< As such, all images represent a "fake" reality. Parent may not be expressing it right, but he does have a point. There is a level of 'interpretation' that is being done during the taking of a picture. If you add to this recent attempts to incorporate AI into picture taking to add/remove parts thereof all of a sudden parent's proposition does not sound so far fetched. Granted, it is still a different level than just generating an image from a prompt, but I would not dismiss the thought outright.
parineum 3y ago
It's a rather extreme view but there is a lot that can be done with photography that can be very misleading. If you see a photo that seems incredible, it might be. People's general skepticism of photos is too low, AI might bring that skepticism a bit higher which I think would be a good thing. You can think of a photo like a news article, the author can be completely truthful while omitting certain facts to give a false impression. The same can be done with how a photo is framed, cropped and processed. The intent of a photographer can definitely be translated into the photograph or it wouldn't be an artform.
bandrami 3y ago
No, it's a point people forget. Even 20 years ago people were asking "is this photo photoshopped?", but if you're viewing it on a webpage, it has absolutely been photoshopped. The problem is we aren't good at specifying what we mean by "photoshopped". Any photo you view has been digitally altered, getting more specific gets into the alterer's intent which gets really messy really quick.
- Tepix 3y ago
  What difference does it make if it was digitally altered or in an analogue fashion? A slightly longer exposure is also not showing reality as seen by human eyes. Besides, there is no single reality even among humans.

tsukikage 3y ago

There's a difference between what happens when you point a regular digital camera at the moon and take a photo and what happens when you do that with a Samsung Space Zoom phone. Most people believe that difference is an important one.

Kaibeezy 3y ago

If “sight” is perceptually completed in the visual cortex, then everything we see is “fake”. - Mr. Magoo

justinjlynn 3y ago
The actual question to ask isn't "is this fake?" it's "how is this record likely to have been manipulated or constructed and whom does it serve?"