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I've been wondering about this for a while. Since we know corporations are people my friend and have all the rights or a person what should stop them from voti

I've been wondering about this for a while. Since we know corporations are people my friend and have all the rights or a person what should stop them from voting. I assume that if pressed a corporation that is 18 years old should be allowed to vote, there's nothing in the constitution prohibiting it. Knowing the current group of yokels in the SC I'm sure we'd see a 6-3 vote codifying the voting rights of a corporation.

ddingus 3y ago
Corporations are not people. They are constructs.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  Corporations are legal persons, but they aren’t natural persons but instead vehicles for actions by natural persons. Granting them voting rights effectively is just granting additional voting rights for the people that control them in proportion of their control, making them effectively a form of selective electoral inequality (and, insofar as as there are government-imposed costs on having a corporation, a form of poll taxes.)
  - ddingus 3y ago
    Yes, I think I agree. However, the idea of a construct being deemed a person makes no sense given how we define what a person is. Further, having essentially broken that definition, we have opened the door for all sorts of crazy legal things to happen! Anything can be a person. Anything can be anything, taken to extremes. In addition to voting issues you mention, having the corporation as person means some of us have agency others do not due to how we operate companies. The owners have a shield for all sorts of otherwise expensive and risky behavior. Great as well as evil actions are possible, affordable and it is not necessary we allow these things. I see it as very harmful.
- zzzeek 3y ago
  Parent commenter was very deftly referring to an infamous quote by Mitt Romney.
  - ddingus 3y ago
    Got it
mellavora 3y ago
And one day we'll even let them drive cars!
- screwturner68 3y ago
  I mean isn't that what we have with a self-driving car? Who do you sue when that car plows into a group of nuns that the algorithm mistook as a black hole? Who's the driver, the passenger sitting in the left front seat or the company with shitty code?
Ekaros 3y ago
Could they be drafted? It would be very efficient way to increase number of combatants if you could just draft a company and send the board+employees to war front...

ddingus 3y ago

Corporations are not people. They are constructs.

dragonwriter 3y ago
Corporations are legal persons, but they aren’t natural persons but instead vehicles for actions by natural persons. Granting them voting rights effectively is just granting additional voting rights for the people that control them in proportion of their control, making them effectively a form of selective electoral inequality (and, insofar as as there are government-imposed costs on having a corporation, a form of poll taxes.)
- ddingus 3y ago
  Yes, I think I agree. However, the idea of a construct being deemed a person makes no sense given how we define what a person is. Further, having essentially broken that definition, we have opened the door for all sorts of crazy legal things to happen! Anything can be a person. Anything can be anything, taken to extremes. In addition to voting issues you mention, having the corporation as person means some of us have agency others do not due to how we operate companies. The owners have a shield for all sorts of otherwise expensive and risky behavior. Great as well as evil actions are possible, affordable and it is not necessary we allow these things. I see it as very harmful.
zzzeek 3y ago
Parent commenter was very deftly referring to an infamous quote by Mitt Romney.
- ddingus 3y ago
  Got it

mellavora 3y ago

And one day we'll even let them drive cars!

screwturner68 3y ago
I mean isn't that what we have with a self-driving car? Who do you sue when that car plows into a group of nuns that the algorithm mistook as a black hole? Who's the driver, the passenger sitting in the left front seat or the company with shitty code?

Ekaros 3y ago

Could they be drafted? It would be very efficient way to increase number of combatants if you could just draft a company and send the board+employees to war front...