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That practice is pretty antithetical to modern Democratic values though. ie one person, one vote.
by comte7092 3y ago
That practice is pretty antithetical to modern Democratic values though. ie one person, one vote.
- chx 3y agoI really must note this ideal is already not practiced in the United States, in fact it never was. The Electoral College, the Senate, the Supreme Court ensures this. After Citizens United I wouldn't be surprised at all if eventually corporate federal vote happened.
- comte7092 3y agoThere is a ton of Supreme Court case law that disagrees with you.[0] >in fact it never was. The Electoral College, the Senate, the Supreme Court ensures this. Note my use of the word modern. All of those (elected) institutions are ossified in place due to the herculean effort it would take to modify them. They are products of a time when that was very much not a settled value in the United States. [0]https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/one-person_one-vote_rule https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/one-person_one-vote_rule Note that as mentioned elsewhere in the thread, such rules allow people who own multiple LLCs to vote multiple times in the same election, in the same jurisdiction.
- sobkas 3y ago> There is a ton of Supreme Court case law that disagrees with you.[0] And how much it helped roe v wade not being overturned? Case law is fine and dandy until there is political will to overturn it. Then it only matters what political opinion have majority there. And it always was some flavour of right(D or R).
- comte7092 3y agoRow v wade had largely been eroded by the time it was overturned. It was obviously a very big deal politically, but the operative case law was Casey v planned parenthood, which allowed for a significant amount of restrictions. Casey paved the way for the mass whittling away of abortion rights in many states before roe was officially overturned. The roe precedent was not on nearly as firm of ground. Though your overall point is still obviously correct, at the end of the day the court is a political institution ruled over by 9 unelected individuals.
- chx 3y ago> >in fact it never was. The Electoral College, the Senate, the Supreme Court ensures this. > All of those (elected) institutions Excuse me but neither the Electoral College nor the Supreme Court is elected.
- comte7092 3y agoThe electoral college absolutely is elected and always has been. What are you talking about? I wrote “(elected)” to explicitly exclude the Supreme Court from my statement.
- chx 3y agoSorry I was unclear and hasty there. The EC ensures the presidency is not democratic.
- comte7092 3y agoIt’s still Democratic, it just isn’t equally representative. I am against the EC as well, but it isn’t representative of modern notions of democracy in America. As I said, it exists as little more than an anachronism.
- crazygringo 3y agoAs a democratic principle, "one person one vote" only applies to a single area. It means you don't get to cast two votes in the same election. But if you have multiple citizenship you can vote in multiple countries, for instance. And in this case being able to vote in two municipalities at the municipal level only isn't a violation of one person, one vote. On the other hand, if they allowed a single owner of multiple LLC's to vote once for each LLC, that certainly becomes questionable. But another HN comment here indicates the text of the bill specifically disallows that.