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This is actually routinely happening in Delaware, several other cities including Newark have enacted this law. From another comment [1]: > In Newark, Delaware
by ajdude 3y ago
This is actually routinely happening in Delaware, several other cities including Newark have enacted this law.
From another comment [1]:
> In Newark, Delaware’s third-biggest city, a similar rule allowed one property manager to vote 31 times in a local referendum in 2018, one for each of the LLCs their company owned
https://www.promarket.org/2022/05/23/delaware-the-state-where-companies-can-vote/ https://www.promarket.org/2022/05/23/delaware-the-state-wher...
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36425994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36425994
- JohnFen 3y agoDamn! Well, there's a good reason to never live in Delaware!
- klyrs 3y agoLocal referendum != federal election
- kevin_thibedeau 3y ago"Vote early, vote often" isn't supposed to be a recommended best practice. What prevents me from opening up 10000 LLCs and solely deciding the outcome of an off cycle election? It really boggles the mind how ignorant Americans are of basic civics. Just the other day I saw a generally knowledgeable law YouTuber state that rights are "granted by the government" which can't be further from the truth in the US.
- kristopolous 3y agoA new definition for "property rights"
- redeeman 3y ago> which can't be further from the truth in the US. thats what the good document promises, not quite what plays out in real life
- batch12 3y ago> rights are "granted by the government" which can't be further from the truth in the US. Yeah, this is a disconcerting trend that I've observed too. Do you this think could be an issue that's always existed at the same levels and is now easier to observe due to the window of social media (and looks like a trend), or do you think it's something new?
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoIt’s a non-obvious concept. If you don’t have some knowledge of the history of law, civics and republics, it’s easy to think of the Bill of Rights as granting rights.
- boomboomsubban 3y agoEven with some knowledge of those things, it's hard to rationalize inherent rights with what we do to noncitizens. Everybody has these rights, but for some reason the Bill of Rights only protects the rights of Americans. Pretty easy to mistake that as the Bill of Rights granting rights.
- Dalewyn 3y ago>for some reason the Bill of Rights only protects the rights of Americans. That is because the Bill of Rights form the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution, the preamble of which opens thusly: "We the people of the United States,"[1] That literature has been interpreted by the courts as the Constitution only applying to United States citizens. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preamble_to_the_United_States_Constitution#People_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preamble_to_the_United_States_... Obligatory IANAL.
- sangnoir 3y agoThis is very Cyberpunk, I can't wait for a Delaware city to allow LLCs to run for seats on the council or to become the mayor (several-dozen votes per controlling entity may help!) In my imagination, the first thing Mayor Blackrock 9754 LLC will do is approve a referendum to phase out residential zoning for new developments, next comes the requisite Japanese tech corps, holographic ads and perpetual night. I never imagined this would be set in Delaware - but it sort of tracks.
- civilitty 3y agoTurns out we're fine with turning our world into a dystopia as long as that dystopia has predictable chancery courts.
- Spivak 3y agoRemove the "corporation" part and it kinda gets reasonable again. Would you vote for a group of people to be your representative? I might.
- seanp2k2 3y agoWhat about if the group of people is investors who don't have the best interests of the population in mind, but instead, only profits?