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> Internally; I believe google is super averse to anything that scales linearly or faster than linearly. - at least as a rule. This is 1000% true. The culture

> Internally; I believe google is super averse to anything that scales linearly or faster than linearly. - at least as a rule. This is 1000% true. The culture is that diminishing returns means linear scale will eventually turn into a cost center. Execs only care about 10x initiatives. My understanding is that Larry personally canceled gFiber b/c the margins, while profitable, were too thin.

lesuorac 3y ago
I suspect even if gFiber had super high margins it would've still had its operations scaled down. It's a huge pain in the ass to deploy fiber. The cities that got Google Fiber mostly had to bend over backwards in order to do so. There's a lot of logistical (and legal) factors that just don't exist for pretty much any other Google product. Like what approvals does Google need to release Bard? But you could make pages of approvals needed to deploy fiber to a city.
- unilynx 3y ago
  > Like what approvals does Google need to release Bard Well, for one they still need Ireland's DPA approval before they release it to the EU.
  - lesuorac 3y ago
    Surely if Google Fiber started EU operations they would also need DPA approval? The point is that fiber would require a lot more approvals than many of the pure software projects. Also afaik, fiber never launched in EU and exists in many less locations than Bard.
tyingq 3y ago
>My understanding is that Larry personally canceled gFiber b/c the margins, while profitable, were too thin. That makes sense given "nothing linear", but I can't understand why they would have thought it could have been better. Same for domains. In what scenario would they grow exponentially?
- dijit 3y ago
  if they can automate the support fully? like someone else in this thread said; in theory it’s a global distribution of 1kb in a database and a user interface. if you are the best at AI, maybe you can solve the support burden. Or at least thats what they attempted.
thereisnospork 3y ago
It feels like such a myopic decision on several fronts, not least of all the obvious cross-product synergies. Google Fiber customers should have been the target market for Stadia, should have been a backbone for deploying semi-public wifi for Pixel Phones owners, a target audience for 'cinephile-grade' upgraded youtube subscription, etc. Nevermind that non-linearity should have been achievable[0] via lobbying at the state/federal level. [0]An advantage only really achievable by a company as large as google, with money and weight to throw around.

lesuorac 3y ago

I suspect even if gFiber had super high margins it would've still had its operations scaled down. It's a huge pain in the ass to deploy fiber. The cities that got Google Fiber mostly had to bend over backwards in order to do so. There's a lot of logistical (and legal) factors that just don't exist for pretty much any other Google product. Like what approvals does Google need to release Bard? But you could make pages of approvals needed to deploy fiber to a city.

unilynx 3y ago
> Like what approvals does Google need to release Bard Well, for one they still need Ireland's DPA approval before they release it to the EU.
- lesuorac 3y ago
  Surely if Google Fiber started EU operations they would also need DPA approval? The point is that fiber would require a lot more approvals than many of the pure software projects. Also afaik, fiber never launched in EU and exists in many less locations than Bard.

tyingq 3y ago

>My understanding is that Larry personally canceled gFiber b/c the margins, while profitable, were too thin. That makes sense given "nothing linear", but I can't understand why they would have thought it could have been better. Same for domains. In what scenario would they grow exponentially?

dijit 3y ago
if they can automate the support fully? like someone else in this thread said; in theory it’s a global distribution of 1kb in a database and a user interface. if you are the best at AI, maybe you can solve the support burden. Or at least thats what they attempted.

thereisnospork 3y ago

It feels like such a myopic decision on several fronts, not least of all the obvious cross-product synergies. Google Fiber customers should have been the target market for Stadia, should have been a backbone for deploying semi-public wifi for Pixel Phones owners, a target audience for 'cinephile-grade' upgraded youtube subscription, etc. Nevermind that non-linearity should have been achievable[0] via lobbying at the state/federal level. [0]An advantage only really achievable by a company as large as google, with money and weight to throw around.