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I noticed eye contact in the cw so I googled it and found this https://sunbeam.city/@RotundCat/100913413054007496 https://sunbeam.city/@RotundCat/10091341305400

I noticed eye contact in the cw so I googled it and found this https://sunbeam.city/@RotundCat/100913413054007496 https://sunbeam.city/@RotundCat/100913413054007496 Interesting. I'd never heard of that

willio58 3y ago
Unfortunately, this is a great example of how insulated and abnormal mastodon communities can be and part of why I don't think it will take off as we all want it to as a Twitter substitute. For the people who don't understand this: basically, there's a content warning you have to give in this community when you post a picture including a person looking into the camera. The reason is around how autistic people can sometimes feel uncomfortable with eye contact.
- euroderf 3y ago
  (Content warning) In other news, some folks can't handle dad euphemisms like "poop" and "piddle".
- krapp 3y ago
  I see it as an example of how Mastodon will succeed, rather than fail. The mainstream internet would never even consider the needs of autistic people - both culturally and financially, it's a non-starter. But Mastodon allows communities to cater to those needs - indeed, the initial community was made up of people driven out of the mainstream web by its hostility and lack of empathy towards "abnormal" people. But, unlike say Twitter, a centralized platform where the man in charge can just decide to redpill the whole site and there's nothing anyone can do about it, no one is forcing all instances to conform to any particular set of rules. Allowing instances to form their own rules and federate with like-minded instances is a strength, not a weakness. I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of fathers of autistic children, and autistic fathers, who might appreciate this. It doesn't have to be for you.
  - tetromino_ 3y ago
    It is great that liberal autistic dads have an online platform they can call their own. The only trouble point is that they picked a very generic name for it: "dads.cool"; if they instead picked a more unique name, or something very descriptive like "liberal-autistic-dads.cool", mainstream visitors would not be surprised about the community's non-mainstream rules and norms.
    - krapp 3y ago
      It's only trouble if you, an ostensible father, find the minor inconvenience of a content warning for a subset of photos you may or may not even post so outrageous you would refuse to use the platform for that reason. And even then, it's only a problem for you. But realistically, this is just lowkey antiwoke politics rearing its ugly head. No one mentioned "liberalism" but you had to throw it in twice, likely because in your head any form of affordance is part of an exclusionary political agenda. Yet I guarantee there are conservatives who would value this feature, and that most people wouldn't care that much.
      - tetromino_ 3y ago
        > No one mentioned "liberalism" Technically correct, but https://dads.cool/about https://dads.cool/about - the page which we are discussing - makes its political alignment clear. They feel the need to explicitly state that they will not federate with right-wing lunatics (Gab); but left-wing lunatics and tankies are apparently welcome.
        benglish11 3y ago
        Also the admin has eye contact in his profile photo! Shouldn’t that be labeled ec
        Timon3 3y ago
        They clearly state: > dads.cool implements the open source "BLOCKchain" to block interactions with instances that might put our community at risk Earlier they describe the kind of community they are: > dads.cool is an instance for dads; if you apply to become a user, it’s expected that you have, had, or are expecting, at least one (human) child—sorry, but pets are not children, no matter how much we love them. Being a father does not mean identifying or being labeled as a man, nor does it mean that you were involved in the conception of the child you take care of. Foster dads, adoptive dads—anyone who cares for a child and identifies as a dad is welcome here. In that spirit, dads.cool welcomes all sexualities, gender identities, races, levels of mobility, and ages. Now, can you honestly say that left-wing lunatics will put their community at a similar risk as right-wing lunatics? One side is clearly and deliberately not accepting of parts of this community.
- version_five 3y ago
  Anytime I go to a site or repo that starts with a big code of conduct with a bunch of pandering it's an immediate red flag for me. I support it accomplishes what they want, it drives off people who don't go in for that stuff, but I'd expect it often results in a super toxic community where everyone is trying to find fault with everyone else. I clicked in the first place because I was interested to see a parenting forum (as a parent) but as it is it's pretty exclusionary.
  - aerio 3y ago
    >I'd expect it often results in a super toxic community where everyone is trying to find fault with everyone else It doesn't. People tend to be respectful, and the whole idea is to be more inclusive. The fact that you immediately take a "fuck off don't tell me what to do" attitude is telling. >But as it is it's pretty exclusionary On the contrary, it's being inclusionary (in this instance to people with ASD, and you're not comfortable with it.

willio58 3y ago

Unfortunately, this is a great example of how insulated and abnormal mastodon communities can be and part of why I don't think it will take off as we all want it to as a Twitter substitute. For the people who don't understand this: basically, there's a content warning you have to give in this community when you post a picture including a person looking into the camera. The reason is around how autistic people can sometimes feel uncomfortable with eye contact.

euroderf 3y ago
(Content warning) In other news, some folks can't handle dad euphemisms like "poop" and "piddle".
krapp 3y ago
I see it as an example of how Mastodon will succeed, rather than fail. The mainstream internet would never even consider the needs of autistic people - both culturally and financially, it's a non-starter. But Mastodon allows communities to cater to those needs - indeed, the initial community was made up of people driven out of the mainstream web by its hostility and lack of empathy towards "abnormal" people. But, unlike say Twitter, a centralized platform where the man in charge can just decide to redpill the whole site and there's nothing anyone can do about it, no one is forcing all instances to conform to any particular set of rules. Allowing instances to form their own rules and federate with like-minded instances is a strength, not a weakness. I mean, I'm sure there are a lot of fathers of autistic children, and autistic fathers, who might appreciate this. It doesn't have to be for you.
- tetromino_ 3y ago
  It is great that liberal autistic dads have an online platform they can call their own. The only trouble point is that they picked a very generic name for it: "dads.cool"; if they instead picked a more unique name, or something very descriptive like "liberal-autistic-dads.cool", mainstream visitors would not be surprised about the community's non-mainstream rules and norms.
  - krapp 3y ago
    It's only trouble if you, an ostensible father, find the minor inconvenience of a content warning for a subset of photos you may or may not even post so outrageous you would refuse to use the platform for that reason. And even then, it's only a problem for you. But realistically, this is just lowkey antiwoke politics rearing its ugly head. No one mentioned "liberalism" but you had to throw it in twice, likely because in your head any form of affordance is part of an exclusionary political agenda. Yet I guarantee there are conservatives who would value this feature, and that most people wouldn't care that much.
    - tetromino_ 3y ago
      > No one mentioned "liberalism" Technically correct, but https://dads.cool/about https://dads.cool/about - the page which we are discussing - makes its political alignment clear. They feel the need to explicitly state that they will not federate with right-wing lunatics (Gab); but left-wing lunatics and tankies are apparently welcome.
      - benglish11 3y ago
        Also the admin has eye contact in his profile photo! Shouldn’t that be labeled ec
      - Timon3 3y ago
        They clearly state: > dads.cool implements the open source "BLOCKchain" to block interactions with instances that might put our community at risk Earlier they describe the kind of community they are: > dads.cool is an instance for dads; if you apply to become a user, it’s expected that you have, had, or are expecting, at least one (human) child—sorry, but pets are not children, no matter how much we love them. Being a father does not mean identifying or being labeled as a man, nor does it mean that you were involved in the conception of the child you take care of. Foster dads, adoptive dads—anyone who cares for a child and identifies as a dad is welcome here. In that spirit, dads.cool welcomes all sexualities, gender identities, races, levels of mobility, and ages. Now, can you honestly say that left-wing lunatics will put their community at a similar risk as right-wing lunatics? One side is clearly and deliberately not accepting of parts of this community.
version_five 3y ago
Anytime I go to a site or repo that starts with a big code of conduct with a bunch of pandering it's an immediate red flag for me. I support it accomplishes what they want, it drives off people who don't go in for that stuff, but I'd expect it often results in a super toxic community where everyone is trying to find fault with everyone else. I clicked in the first place because I was interested to see a parenting forum (as a parent) but as it is it's pretty exclusionary.
- aerio 3y ago
  >I'd expect it often results in a super toxic community where everyone is trying to find fault with everyone else It doesn't. People tend to be respectful, and the whole idea is to be more inclusive. The fact that you immediately take a "fuck off don't tell me what to do" attitude is telling. >But as it is it's pretty exclusionary On the contrary, it's being inclusionary (in this instance to people with ASD, and you're not comfortable with it.