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I don't know what this means or what value this framework provides. Literally any random sequence of events is a story. That doesn't have any bearing on it bei

I don't know what this means or what value this framework provides. Literally any random sequence of events is a story. That doesn't have any bearing on it being true or false. Example: - I was hungry - so I ate a sandwich - Then I took a shit. - Then cows started flying. Completely fabricated and not real. (I had oats today) Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person.

barelyauser 3y ago
>>Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person. This can only be explained with the aid of a story. Gravity being this thing that results in this falling to the ground and so on.
jstarfish 3y ago
It's not about truth, it's just a reflection on packaging and presentation of ideas. You're taking it too literally. The argument boils down to anything you can't explain doesn't exist, which is shortsighted and pseudointellectual. It's an Agile project manager's understanding of Story. A top comment mentions physics, and I would suggest the concept of mental illness and "hurt feelings" also qualifies. We don't understand a fucking thing about psychology (the field is rife with fraud and psychiatrists are no more effective than shamans), though there are clearly problems that exist within people's brains. Schizophrenia is very real to the afflicted, yet they can't coherently explain their experience. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Whether it's True or Real or not isn't really the point.
- rapatel0 3y ago
  I get the basic premise: the idea is that storytelling is how to explain concepts and ideas. It's just one of those glaringly obvious observations. > The argument boils down to anything you can't explain doesn't exist, which is shortsighted and pseudointellectual. Yeah, 100% agree. I prefer the old Feynman's quote (paraphrasing): If you can't explain it to a 5 year old, then you probably don't understand it. (that doesn't mean it doesn't exist)
AlbertCory 3y ago
> Literally any random sequence of events is a story. That doesn't have any bearing on it being true or false. The author didn't say any set of events is true or false. He's remarking on how people want a story to explain things, which is what Hollywood thrives on. And how things that don't easily lend themselves to a story tend to be ignored.
Gordonjcp 3y ago
> Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person. Okay, so explain it, what does it mean? Don't use a story though. Pretend I didn't do physics in high school.
- rapatel0 3y ago
  Things fall, and this is how we measure how fast. (not a story)
  - Gordonjcp 3y ago
    Yup! That covers it!
TRiG_Ireland 3y ago
> Literally any random sequence of events is a story. No. There needs to be a narrative framework. Or, at the very least, an apparent chain of causality. That's how we make sense of the world.
scotty79 3y ago
> Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person. I'd say that there's a huge story hidden in this simple statement. Of attraction, universality, measurements, relativity, degrees of truth. Also it's not technically true because gravitational acceleration varies with height and geology.

barelyauser 3y ago

>>Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person. This can only be explained with the aid of a story. Gravity being this thing that results in this falling to the ground and so on.

jstarfish 3y ago

It's not about truth, it's just a reflection on packaging and presentation of ideas. You're taking it too literally. The argument boils down to anything you can't explain doesn't exist, which is shortsighted and pseudointellectual. It's an Agile project manager's understanding of Story. A top comment mentions physics, and I would suggest the concept of mental illness and "hurt feelings" also qualifies. We don't understand a fucking thing about psychology (the field is rife with fraud and psychiatrists are no more effective than shamans), though there are clearly problems that exist within people's brains. Schizophrenia is very real to the afflicted, yet they can't coherently explain their experience. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Whether it's True or Real or not isn't really the point.

rapatel0 3y ago
I get the basic premise: the idea is that storytelling is how to explain concepts and ideas. It's just one of those glaringly obvious observations. > The argument boils down to anything you can't explain doesn't exist, which is shortsighted and pseudointellectual. Yeah, 100% agree. I prefer the old Feynman's quote (paraphrasing): If you can't explain it to a 5 year old, then you probably don't understand it. (that doesn't mean it doesn't exist)

AlbertCory 3y ago

> Literally any random sequence of events is a story. That doesn't have any bearing on it being true or false. The author didn't say any set of events is true or false. He's remarking on how people want a story to explain things, which is what Hollywood thrives on. And how things that don't easily lend themselves to a story tend to be ignored.

Gordonjcp 3y ago

> Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person. Okay, so explain it, what does it mean? Don't use a story though. Pretend I didn't do physics in high school.

rapatel0 3y ago
Things fall, and this is how we measure how fast. (not a story)
- Gordonjcp 3y ago
  Yup! That covers it!

TRiG_Ireland 3y ago

> Literally any random sequence of events is a story. No. There needs to be a narrative framework. Or, at the very least, an apparent chain of causality. That's how we make sense of the world.

scotty79 3y ago

> Also, "Gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 on Earth." Not a story a but definitely true and explainable to the average person. I'd say that there's a huge story hidden in this simple statement. Of attraction, universality, measurements, relativity, degrees of truth. Also it's not technically true because gravitational acceleration varies with height and geology.