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I've been using Red Hat and Fedora since the early RH4 days when the video driver only supported monochrome for my GPU. I'm now going to start switching to some

I've been using Red Hat and Fedora since the early RH4 days when the video driver only supported monochrome for my GPU. I'm now going to start switching to something not controlled by a corporation. Yes, I'm not happy about it but it's necessary. The days of being naive about Linux are over. I still consider Fedora one of the best distros out there (bleeding edge and polished as much as possible) and I prefer to use the same-ish distro on my personal computers and on the servers but this is another nail in the RH-based distro coffin for me.

lost_tourist 3y ago
If you like the glacial pace of Redhat you'll probably be happy with Debian stable.
- gtirloni 3y ago
  Until today I preferred to use Fedora on desktops and RHEL/Rocky/CentOS on servers, so I'm already used to different paces of development. But it seems Debian unstable on desktops and Debian 12 stable on servers might work just fine. Truth be told, I only need a 5.x/6.x kernel with cgroups/namespaces/ebpf on my servers and flatpak on the desktops and I'm fine.
tristan957 3y ago
Fedora is pretty independent of Red Hat, especially since Red Hat fired the Fedora project lead.
- jzb 3y ago
  Fedora is sponsored by Red Hat and many of its developers are employed by Red Hat. Much of the work in Fedora is done by Red Hat. Red Hat did not fire the FPL. They laid off the Fedora Program Manager, which is a different role entirely. I would still say that was a lousy decision, but the FPL is a very different role that goes back a very long time and AFAIK remains filled by Matthew Miller. I've seen the two roles conflated here and there so I figured it was worth correcting here so it doesn't continue to spread.
  - tristan957 3y ago
    How many is many? Thanks for the correction on the title.
    - jzb 3y ago
      A few years ago the figure was "several hundred" but the exact number is fluid because some people (like Matthew) are paid to work on Fedora full time, while others work on Fedora as part of their job but not their whole job. It's also further confused by the fact that some Red Hatters contribute to Fedora but not as part of their day job. I think it'd be fair to say more than 60% of the work that goes into Fedora's official releases is paid for by Red Hat. Maybe more. If you factor in spins and such, it might be less than 60%.

lost_tourist 3y ago

If you like the glacial pace of Redhat you'll probably be happy with Debian stable.

gtirloni 3y ago
Until today I preferred to use Fedora on desktops and RHEL/Rocky/CentOS on servers, so I'm already used to different paces of development. But it seems Debian unstable on desktops and Debian 12 stable on servers might work just fine. Truth be told, I only need a 5.x/6.x kernel with cgroups/namespaces/ebpf on my servers and flatpak on the desktops and I'm fine.

tristan957 3y ago

Fedora is pretty independent of Red Hat, especially since Red Hat fired the Fedora project lead.

jzb 3y ago
Fedora is sponsored by Red Hat and many of its developers are employed by Red Hat. Much of the work in Fedora is done by Red Hat. Red Hat did not fire the FPL. They laid off the Fedora Program Manager, which is a different role entirely. I would still say that was a lousy decision, but the FPL is a very different role that goes back a very long time and AFAIK remains filled by Matthew Miller. I've seen the two roles conflated here and there so I figured it was worth correcting here so it doesn't continue to spread.
- tristan957 3y ago
  How many is many? Thanks for the correction on the title.
  - jzb 3y ago
    A few years ago the figure was "several hundred" but the exact number is fluid because some people (like Matthew) are paid to work on Fedora full time, while others work on Fedora as part of their job but not their whole job. It's also further confused by the fact that some Red Hatters contribute to Fedora but not as part of their day job. I think it'd be fair to say more than 60% of the work that goes into Fedora's official releases is paid for by Red Hat. Maybe more. If you factor in spins and such, it might be less than 60%.