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Interesting comments. I would have thought the average HNer would understand why systems fall into disrepair without having to resort to old and tired racist tr

Interesting comments. I would have thought the average HNer would understand why systems fall into disrepair without having to resort to old and tired racist tropes.

93po 3y ago
Were you hoping to start curious discussion with your own comment?
- taylodl 3y ago
  We're best positioned to rise above the racist stereotypes yet here we are struggling. We know operations is hard, really hard, and that it's oftentimes harder to keep systems running than it was to build them. Part of it is funding was allocated for the building (wealthy people built it) and we often lack funding for maintenance (poor people trying to maintain) and the system falls into disrepair as a result. Most of us here see this in our work everyday, so I'm curious as to why we can't recognize that same pattern when it's happening with real objects instead of our abstract ones?
blake_himself 3y ago
Dude, we evolved on different continents for 50,000 years. We look different. Our bodies' biochemistry differs (different medications for whites + blacks for blood pressure). Why do you think brains came out the same? They didn't, and all the hard data, and all the evidence of everyone's eyes - how black vs white, or other populations, live, shows that. It's ugly, it's not nice, people don't know what to do about it, it's a can of worms, but it's true.
- tim333 3y ago
  Dunno - most science studies seem to suggest culture rather than genetics.
  - tim333 3y ago
    One interesting data point for example - African Americans in general earn less that whites but Nigerian Americans earn more. Probably because they have selected the highly educated ones rather than genetics. https://twitter.com/me_uko/status/1650389358187360262 https://twitter.com/me_uko/status/1650389358187360262
- 93po 3y ago
  I'd encourage you to read reputable research on this more. Especially ones on intelligence between races if that's where your mind is going. At one point I thought I also had some "facts" about this that were founded in science, but after more careful reading recently in my life I realized the "science" I had vaguely remembered around this was actually racist, unscientific garbage.

Interesting comments. I would have thought the average HNer would understand why systems fall into disrepair without having to resort to old and tired racist tropes.

93po 3y ago

Were you hoping to start curious discussion with your own comment?

taylodl 3y ago
We're best positioned to rise above the racist stereotypes yet here we are struggling. We know operations is hard, really hard, and that it's oftentimes harder to keep systems running than it was to build them. Part of it is funding was allocated for the building (wealthy people built it) and we often lack funding for maintenance (poor people trying to maintain) and the system falls into disrepair as a result. Most of us here see this in our work everyday, so I'm curious as to why we can't recognize that same pattern when it's happening with real objects instead of our abstract ones?

blake_himself 3y ago

Dude, we evolved on different continents for 50,000 years. We look different. Our bodies' biochemistry differs (different medications for whites + blacks for blood pressure). Why do you think brains came out the same? They didn't, and all the hard data, and all the evidence of everyone's eyes - how black vs white, or other populations, live, shows that. It's ugly, it's not nice, people don't know what to do about it, it's a can of worms, but it's true.

tim333 3y ago
Dunno - most science studies seem to suggest culture rather than genetics.
- tim333 3y ago
  One interesting data point for example - African Americans in general earn less that whites but Nigerian Americans earn more. Probably because they have selected the highly educated ones rather than genetics. https://twitter.com/me_uko/status/1650389358187360262 https://twitter.com/me_uko/status/1650389358187360262
93po 3y ago
I'd encourage you to read reputable research on this more. Especially ones on intelligence between races if that's where your mind is going. At one point I thought I also had some "facts" about this that were founded in science, but after more careful reading recently in my life I realized the "science" I had vaguely remembered around this was actually racist, unscientific garbage.