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In my country there a lot of people running scams targeting old people, I still don't understand why there aren't harsher laws for those people.
by is_true 3y ago
In my country there a lot of people running scams targeting old people, I still don't understand why there aren't harsher laws for those people.
- LanceH 3y agoI recall in the 80's similar things playing out by mail (in the US) directed at my grandmother. She received a large variety of scams. Some were completely illegal. A lot were "send us money, we'll fix this political issue" -- some from the usual suspects AARP, Republicans, Demoracts, etc... But others were from places that sounded like brand names and I'm sure most of them provided no benefit or action and were straight up taking the money. After seeing that, nothing really surprised me as far as someone's willingness to prey on another.
- anthk 3y agoSpain? Damn soulless commercials even have an internal list of old, vulnerable people to sell them anything. I'm talking of supposedly legal companies, not thieves.
- is_true 3y agoArgentina. "Legal companies" here do that too, there are a couple of bank that are mandatory for lots of people and are all the time making random charges to clients, I've tried to get in touch with the Central Bank here but they don't care.
- redeeman 3y agoim genuinely curious, why cant we just severely punish ANY form of scamming? if you are willfully scamming other people, why cant the law rightfully come down SUPER HARD on it? scamming is not okay, no matter who does it for ANY reason, and NO MATTER TO WHOM
- ronsor 3y agoBecause the scammers are typically outside the country, so good luck actually getting them arrested. Even if you do get them arrested in their own country, the grease known as money is often very good at getting the gears of corruption to turn; they'll be out in 24 hours or less.
- ericbarrett 3y agoIMO this has long passed the point of being a national security issue, and legislators need to start taking it seriously, up to and including harsh embargoes against uncooperative hosts.
- redeeman 3y agowell sure, if we cant do it we cant, however, I would say this is a problem that too can be solved. But it is also a question of WANT, and the one i replied to suggested we should specially punish those who scam elderly etc, and I would suggest we simply raise the level of punishment for ALL scammers
- is_true 3y agoIn Argentina most scammers are operating here. I think harsher punishments would be a way to make them think twice before doing it.
- redeeman 3y agoits popular these days to say "punishments dont work, focus on rehabilitation!!!", but really, punishments and fear of punishments for sure work. If the scammers knew that the punishment would be extremely severe, they'd think twice. If we dedicate even more resources to finding them and punishng them, they will think thrice. then you may say: "But what about when they come out? they'll just do more crime!!". Well... I can think of an adjustment to this premise that solves the problem.
- DropInIn 3y agoYour confusing simple punishment with the concept of Deterrents. Deterrents do have an effect but only to a point, with further escalation beyond that point also escalating the severity of associated offences. Eg - if you have a death sentence for minor theft then those who are desperate will still steal but instead of giving up peacefully when caught they will murder as many as the need to get away. Deterrents and punishment schemes can most definitely, and many currently do, cause more harms than benefits.
- refurb 3y agoMany of them are actors from outside the country.