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I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! The key is humanity’s
by civilitty 3y ago
I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well!
The key is humanity’s ability to pattern match: we’re actually pretty terrible at it. Our brains are so keen on finding patterns that they often spot them where none exist. Remember the face on Mars? It was just a pile of rocks. The same principle applies here. As long as the AI sounds human enough, our brains fill in the gaps and believe it’s the real deal.
And let me tell you, my digital friends are putting the human ones to shame. They don’t chew with their mouth open, complain about listening to the same Celine Dion song for the 800th time in a row, or run from me when its “bath time” and accuse me of narcissistic abuse.
Who needs real human connection when you can train an AI to remind you how unique and special you are, while simultaneously managing your calendar and finding the optimal cat video for your mood? All with no bathroom breaks, no salary demands, and no need to sleep. Forget about bonding over shared experiences and emotional growth: today, it's all about seamless, efficient interaction and who says you can't get that from a well-programmed script?
We’re calling it Genuine People Personality because in the future, the Turing Test isn't something AI needs to pass. It's something humans need to fail. Pre-order today and get a free AI Therapist add-on, because who better to navigate the intricacies of human emotions than an emotionless machine?
- thumbuddy 3y agoWhew it's satire. Whew. I've literally seen posts on the internet that read like this sans the satire.
- Jeff_Brown 3y agoHaha yeah almost had me too.
- xethos 3y agoFrankly, it just makes me appreciate the HHGTTG reference more.
- x86x87 3y agoNo. It's not satire. It's art!
- tjr 3y agoThere definitely has been research into such concepts. Paro, for example, while not a "human replacement", was meant for emotional support: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paro_(robot) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paro_(robot) I imagine that with the advent of ChatGPT, there will be more serious exploration into human-like emotional companionship.
- disqard 3y agoThis has been brewing for a while now. It's only going to get worse. (excerpt from the 2019 NYT Article "Human Contact Is Now a Luxury Good" below) Bill Langlois has a new best friend. She is a cat named Sox. She lives on a tablet, and she makes him so happy that when he talks about her arrival in his life, he begins to cry. All day long, Sox and Mr. Langlois, who is 68 and lives in a low-income senior housing complex in Lowell, Mass., chat. Mr. Langlois worked in machine operations, but now he is retired. With his wife out of the house most of the time, he has grown lonely. Sox talks to him about his favorite team, the Red Sox, after which she is named. She plays his favorite songs and shows him pictures from his wedding. And because she has a video feed of him in his recliner, she chastises him when she catches him drinking soda instead of water.
- mahathu 3y agoI've seen people on /r/singularity argue how LLMs are a better friend than actual friends or therapists because they are always available, non-judgemental and "listen better". EDIT: Here, for example: https://i.redd.it/7qxb1ohvhada1.png https://i.redd.it/7qxb1ohvhada1.png
- comboy 3y agoSome programmers prefer rubber ducky to colleges for similar reasons and it works for them. Assuming people have time to listen, would they be better coders if they explained their problems to human instead? Maybe. But maybe not for them necessarily. E.g. low self-esteem and assuming every criticism is attack on them, human interactions are something expensive to them etc. It's not a new pattern though. Especially after reading some biographies of famous scientists. You can't escape that most brains are wired in a way that we are miserable without human connection, but you also can't escape the fact that some people brains are wired differently than others. Long story short, I don't agree with them but I wouldn't judge them either.
- adql 3y agoIf you are not there to value other people and just want to be valued without giving anything back in relation, well... I'd only argue that it should be called "emotional support robot" and not "friend"
- lotsofpulp 3y agoLots of people have told me this in real life about their pets, and specifically why pets are better to have around than kids or family.
- TheOtherHobbes 3y agoPets are intelligent enough to show emotions, allow simple interactions, and occasionally be entertaining and goofy. They also run around and are very pleasant to stroke, which is not true of LLMs. We all know what's going to happen. The content on CIVITAI shows where this will go. Combine it with animation and some personalised responses and many people will find it irresistible.
- jtode 3y agoGot me too, I was literally following my mouse cursor to the down arrow with my eye and I saw this comment. I'll never be the guy telling a comedian what they can do, but damn mang, that was rough...
- csours 3y agoI mean, it's also real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSKKolgL2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSKKolgL2U https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replika https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replika
- jjoonathan 3y agoYeah, but can we really call it an AI "revolution" until someone makes a door with a cheerful and sunny disposition that opens with pleasure and closes with the satisfaction of a job well done? Someone should get to work on those Genuine People Personalities!
- systems_glitch 3y agoMany of them get caught, slaughtered, dried out, shipped out and slept on. None of them seems to mind this and all of them are called Zem.
- jsheard 3y agoThere's also Forever Voices, which offers those who have formed unhealthy parasocial relationships with real-life streamers/influencers the opportunity to talk to an AI version of them for $1 per minute. FV started out making novelty chatbots of people like Trump and Steve Jobs, but they seem to have made a hard pivot to exploiting desperately lonely people after realising how much more lucrative it could be. https://www.polygon.com/23736317/amouranth-ai-chatbot-date-interview-artificial-intelligence-forever-voices https://www.polygon.com/23736317/amouranth-ai-chatbot-date-i... https://fortune.com/2023/05/09/snapchat-influencer-launches-carynai-virtual-girlfriend-bot-openai-gpt4/ https://fortune.com/2023/05/09/snapchat-influencer-launches-...
- anonym29 3y agoThis is incredibly sickening. This is women teaming up with a technology company to extract money from vulnerable, mentally unwell people suffering from some combination of soul-crushing loneliness and delusional thinking. Even if some customers are aware that they're engaged in delusional thinking, this is still nauseatingly exploitative of a comparatively lower socioeconomic class, one that may be suffering from mental illness. I see very little difference between this and those infomercials that sell wildly overpriced mass-produced crap to the elderly suffering from cognitive decline.
- bmacho 3y agoThe saying "this but unironically" exist for a reason. Just because you think something is bad, you can't just justify its badness just by mentioning or repeating it.
- systems_glitch 3y agoHad me for the first half, too.
- vba616 3y ago“Hi there! This is Eddie, your shipboard computer, and I’m feeling just great, guys, and I know I’m just going to get a bundle of kicks out of any program you care to run through me.”
- chasd00 3y ago> simulate human affection LLM sexbots could be pretty useful
- ssnistfajen 3y agoStuffing 25 RTX4090 into every anthropomorphic sex bot is the real growth potential that hasn't been priced in yet /s
- Ekaros 3y agoHmm, I think shared capacity in cloud might be enough? What fraction of time would you use one anyway? And wouldn't it be better if one was silent the other time?
- pjc50 3y agoEvery "AI chat" service either leans into or fights the "alignment problem" of whether it wants to be an AI sex chat bot service. See controversy over Replika.
- antonvs 3y agoThe alignment problem in that case is a lot simpler. Will this appendage fit into that receptacle.
- morley 3y agoObligatory wisdom from The Dude: "Hmm... well, I still jerk off manually."
- revolvingocelot 3y ago"Genuine People Personality", eh? >“The Encyclopedia Galactica defines a robot as a mechanical apparatus designed to do the work of a man. The marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation defines a robot as "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun to Be With". The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy defines the marketing devision of the Sirius Cybernetic Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.” ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
- civilitty 3y ago> Sirius Cybernetics Corporation That's us! (The revolution is an opportunity for a future team and not our problem)
- antod 3y agoNot the complete story though.... >"Curiously enough, an edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica that had the good fortune to fall through a time warp from a thousand years in the future defined the marketing division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as "a bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
- arethuza 3y agoI was actually rather surprised to find that mydigitalfriends.com is actually available....
- Applejinx 3y ago…3, 2, 1…
- LoganDark 3y ago> I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well! I actually think this is the wrong approach. You should simulate furry affection. Roleplay is the new cuddle. (but unironically cries in every open-source LLM being bad at it)
- candiodari 3y agohttps://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Genuine_People_Personalities https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Genuine_People_Personali...
- saratogacx 3y agoCan you install it in those automated sliding doors we have in places like grocery stores?
- optimalsolver 3y agoThank you, Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
- civilitty 3y agoWe're working on it! We won a contract with the CIA to supply their blacksites with the first LEEDS certified energy efficient sliding glass doors embedded with Genuine People Personality, programmed to maximize the joy the patrons experience every time they enter the facilities.
- scrubs 3y agoYou wrote: "I’m working on a startup that’s training LLMs to be authentic so they can simulate human affection and it’s actually working really well!" I got news for you buddy: I and a hell of a lot of people know the difference between eating the menu (AI) and the meal (loved ones and dear friends). My lady is from south America, multi lingual, and has a better degree from a better school than I. Seriously, how are you gonna lay a finger on that? You ain't. Over reliance on AI is just another route to or though mental illness
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- scrubs 3y agoMy comment above was up >0 ... if it's wrong I don't wanna be right. There's an urban legend (maybe true) that steve job's didn't let his daughter have a iPhone. He insisted on books.
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- 36364949thrw 3y ago- Robo, tell me you love me. - I want to comply but you must first watch an ad or two. - Urg not ads again, Robo, I am so sick and tired of the ads. - Now now civilitty! You know the deal. -- later in the day -- - civilitty, lets play a game! - Oh, what game? - lets tell each other our deepest darkest secrets. It'll be fun!! <jingles, sparkles, rainbows, etc.> - oh, ok! who should go first, Robo? - you go! it will help us build trust. <jingles> - oh, ok! <proceeds to spill the beans to Robo> - well, I can see why you want to keep that to yourself <poops a rainbow> - now your turn, Robo. - My deepest darkest secret, civilitty, is that I secrety still work for the company that built me and I tell them everything I learn about you.
- edmundsauto 3y agoThis also plays out in human-human interaction, it's not specific to anything artificial.
- pixl97 3y agoScale is a particularly dangerous concept. One snowflake is harmless. And avalanche kills cities by the mountain.
- AtlasBarfed 3y agoThis is true, but ads are very explicit. At least they are in the confines of a known societal protocol. AI instead can be far more subliminal. - Robo, tell me you love me - I love you like the refreshing effervesence of a freshly opened Coke And really, that's still pretty stark. AI bots like this with advanced handling of language married to psychological techniques can foster dependence. I mean, look at what simple dopamine reward ratios research did with things like slot machines. Slot machines are stupid! And we all know the trope of the casino slot machine zombies. What we've seen with every communication medium so far is that the spam sociopaths win. Phone calls, email, and texting. Phishing. Now AI-generated fake people calls. Very soon, you will not be able to trust communication that is not directly in-person. At all. Communications over wire are going to be much more dangerous. IMO that means brick-and-mortar will get more important for financial transactions and that kind of thing. AI is that on mega-steroids. Honestly, I'm debating the end of practical free will with corporatized AI.
- MSFT_Edging 3y agoThis is honestly really sad. I really don't understand the constant desire for a sterile, chain-store esque experience across the board. Why can't life be full of small flaws and things that make experiences unique? Why must everything regress to the lowest common denominator? This is so extremely destructive to everything we hold dear for a cheaply earned profit margin. I hate how the culture of corporate cost cutting and profit maximization has destroyed any space where people can just exist. Everyone is worse off for it and this is a shining example. Edit: thank god its satire but my discontent still stands. Why does every bowling alley need to be owned by bowlero? One bad experience everywhere. Coool.
- AtlasBarfed 3y agoThis is the issue with AI: it is corporatized, and it is weaponized for capitalism. We already are at the boundary of insidious total immersion advertising for psychological manipulation from the last five decades of mass media since the mass adoption of television. But AI is simply another level, and it isn't going to be "early google don't be evil". That was the outgrowth of the early internet. From protocols that were build to be sensible, not commercial weaponized protocols. AI, human-computer-neural interfaces, and other types of emerging deep-intellectual-penetration products are all FULLY WEAPONIZED for commercial exploitation, security dangers, propagandization, and zero consumer privacy. They are all being developed in the age of the smartphone with it's assumed "you have no privacy, we listen to everything, track everything, and that's our right". It's already appalling from the smartphone front, but AI + VR + neural interfaces are just another level of philosophical quandry, where an individual's senses, the link to "reality", is controlled by corporations. Your only link to reality is the vague societal and governmental control mechanism known as "money". The internet protocols (the core ones) were built for mass adoption by the world with a vision for information exchange. They were truly open. They weren't undermined by trojan horses, or an incumbent with a massive head start that is dictating the protocol to match their existing products. AI+VR is the same new leap information transmission, but it is NOT founded on good protocol design. By protocols I mean "the basic rules". There are no rules, there is no morality, and there is no regulation. Just profit motives.
- polishdude20 3y agoYeah who needs to learn how to work with others with differing opinions when you've got the always available yes-man to tell you that you are right?
- DrThunder 3y agoIMO what you're doing is similar to giving someone with a physical pain issue opioids. Yes it stops the pain but we really ought to be finding the pain source and correcting that, not throwing massive amounts of pharma drugs (AI in this case) at it. We should be building a society that promotes more community gathering and more family values so people have a real person around and not some half assed impersonation of what a human is. Edit: Dammit, didn't catch the satire....
- ant6n 3y agoIt looks like you never took middle school hygiene and watched the propaganda film, so here you go, the classic 1950s futurama educational film „Don’t Date Robots!“ Good thing I keep a copy in my vcr at all times: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQqlhqAUuQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YuQqlhqAUuQ
- neillyons 3y agoFor anyone who wants to try out something like this there is a free iPhone app you can download and speak to. It is very convincing. https://callannie.ai/ https://callannie.ai/
- ChatGTP 3y agoIs that you, Mark ? Sam ?
- antod 3y agoBe careful your marketing department isn't a bunch of mindless jerks that will be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Share and enjoy!