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The sheer audacity to claim that 'fossil fuel industry' has "created significantly more problems than it has actually solved" If you leave the SF bubble for a

The sheer audacity to claim that 'fossil fuel industry' has "created significantly more problems than it has actually solved" If you leave the SF bubble for a split second, and think about the foundations of modern industry, you would realize fossil fuels have created tectonic value for society, that's why transitioning away is so so hard. All the 'real problems', like housing costs, medical costs, education costs, occur in the most highly regulated areas of the economy. Not technology.

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Jeff_Brown 3y ago
While I'm with you overall -- cheap transport alone has made our lives easily of times better -- there's at least one giant problem that occurs mostly due to lack of regulation, which is environmental degradation.
hilbert42 3y ago
"The sheer audacity to claim that 'fossil fuel industry' has "created significantly more problems than it has actually solved"" One of the problems of modern discourse is that an idea or meme takes hold and has a life of itself, it becomes the center of attraction without refence past history, past events, etc. I'm not a climate change denier nor do I disagree that using fossil fuels has huge environmental consequences but no rational person could deny that we owe our whole modern life to fossil fuels. The Industrial Revolution absolutely depended on coal, it has been the lifeblood of modern society for at least 300 years. It is simply unimaginable to envisage modern life without its existence. Moreover, what's lost in this debate is that coal is not just a source of energy, it is also the source of a many other useful materials. When I was learning about this decades ago we were taught that coal was the source of so many useful products that we round that number off to '1000' to signal its importance. In fact, coal provides many more than a 1000 useful products, the pharmaceutical couldn't do without it. The previous poster should contemplate the fact that even common old aspirin comes from coal—in fact many pharmaceutical texts place aspirin in a class of drugs known as the coal-tar antipyretics. Wild assertions of this type happen when we stop teaching history, how modern society came about and so on. A dose of philosophical reasoning and logic ought to be taught as well, that way reason may hold back many from uttering and spreading crap.

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Jeff_Brown 3y ago

While I'm with you overall -- cheap transport alone has made our lives easily of times better -- there's at least one giant problem that occurs mostly due to lack of regulation, which is environmental degradation.

hilbert42 3y ago

"The sheer audacity to claim that 'fossil fuel industry' has "created significantly more problems than it has actually solved"" One of the problems of modern discourse is that an idea or meme takes hold and has a life of itself, it becomes the center of attraction without refence past history, past events, etc. I'm not a climate change denier nor do I disagree that using fossil fuels has huge environmental consequences but no rational person could deny that we owe our whole modern life to fossil fuels. The Industrial Revolution absolutely depended on coal, it has been the lifeblood of modern society for at least 300 years. It is simply unimaginable to envisage modern life without its existence. Moreover, what's lost in this debate is that coal is not just a source of energy, it is also the source of a many other useful materials. When I was learning about this decades ago we were taught that coal was the source of so many useful products that we round that number off to '1000' to signal its importance. In fact, coal provides many more than a 1000 useful products, the pharmaceutical couldn't do without it. The previous poster should contemplate the fact that even common old aspirin comes from coal—in fact many pharmaceutical texts place aspirin in a class of drugs known as the coal-tar antipyretics. Wild assertions of this type happen when we stop teaching history, how modern society came about and so on. A dose of philosophical reasoning and logic ought to be taught as well, that way reason may hold back many from uttering and spreading crap.