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I am not even sure why we are looking for them, I don't think there is any way to setup rescue equipment that can go low enough to help them and drag that subme

I am not even sure why we are looking for them, I don't think there is any way to setup rescue equipment that can go low enough to help them and drag that submersible out of the water before they would run out of oxygen.

dan_mctree 3y ago
Maybe they could attach a cable and drag it up to a ship? I'm sure there's ways to help these people with joined effort
- prmoustache 3y ago
  And with which equipment would you do that? Are there even submersibles with adequate tooling available in a small enough radius? I've followed an OceanGate Titanic mission where a popular travel blogger was participating in and from what I understood there aren't many submersible vessels in the world able to go so low, let alone with functionnal tools. It is not like you can open the door to a diver for him to attach a cable, pressure is just too high.
  - v7n 3y ago
    This is barely on topic, but "there aren't many submersible vessels in the world able to go so low" caught my eye and I will use this opportunity to throw shade on the US DoD as partially responsible for the lack of such vehicles in current day. Yes, I'm pretty salty about this one. The small submersibles used for Titanic the movie for filming the wreckage were Mirs* and a marvel of engineering for their time. However "[t]he level of technology flowing into the Soviet Union raised concern in the US and Rauma-Repola [the Finnish manufacturer] was privately threatened with economic sanctions." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible)
benjaminwai 3y ago
The French research ship Atalante is almost there: "It carries the Victor 6000 autonomous robot, capable of descending to a depth of 6,000 metres, beyond the 3,800 metres of the wreck's position" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-send-ship-titanic-sub-rescue-operation-ministry-2023-06-20/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-send-ship-titani... Last I checked on MarineTraffic Atalante was about 100NM away from site. Would it not help?
- prmoustache 3y ago
  That is good but probably one of the best/only tools for the job. It is probably already too late though. All that is still theory, we don't even know if the submersible isn't already destroyed.

dan_mctree 3y ago

Maybe they could attach a cable and drag it up to a ship? I'm sure there's ways to help these people with joined effort

prmoustache 3y ago
And with which equipment would you do that? Are there even submersibles with adequate tooling available in a small enough radius? I've followed an OceanGate Titanic mission where a popular travel blogger was participating in and from what I understood there aren't many submersible vessels in the world able to go so low, let alone with functionnal tools. It is not like you can open the door to a diver for him to attach a cable, pressure is just too high.
- v7n 3y ago
  This is barely on topic, but "there aren't many submersible vessels in the world able to go so low" caught my eye and I will use this opportunity to throw shade on the US DoD as partially responsible for the lack of such vehicles in current day. Yes, I'm pretty salty about this one. The small submersibles used for Titanic the movie for filming the wreckage were Mirs* and a marvel of engineering for their time. However "[t]he level of technology flowing into the Soviet Union raised concern in the US and Rauma-Repola [the Finnish manufacturer] was privately threatened with economic sanctions." * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(submersible)

benjaminwai 3y ago

The French research ship Atalante is almost there: "It carries the Victor 6000 autonomous robot, capable of descending to a depth of 6,000 metres, beyond the 3,800 metres of the wreck's position" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-send-ship-titanic-sub-rescue-operation-ministry-2023-06-20/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-send-ship-titani... Last I checked on MarineTraffic Atalante was about 100NM away from site. Would it not help?

prmoustache 3y ago
That is good but probably one of the best/only tools for the job. It is probably already too late though. All that is still theory, we don't even know if the submersible isn't already destroyed.