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Which jobs did they offshore and then onshore? From my PoV, the offshoring never stopped, seeing how many German companies moved SW dev to Eastern Europe. Most

Which jobs did they offshore and then onshore? From my PoV, the offshoring never stopped, seeing how many German companies moved SW dev to Eastern Europe. Most automotive SW seems to be developed in Eastern Europe nowadays and I haven't seen any large German company that doesn't have off-shore IT/SW offices in a low CoL country where most of the grunt work is being done, with only the bosses/management being in the German HQ. Only recently it seems to have slowed down, as the wages there approached the ones in Germany thanks to US companies entering the market with even batter wages, so there's no cost savings to be made anymore for them hiring here. Also, DW was reporting of German companies moving IT/SW dev to Africa now that Eastern Europe was all fished out of cheap labor.[1] So the offshoring never stopped it seems, and knowing how stingy German companies are with paying ICs and increasing their salaries, it doesn't surprise me. They'll do anything not to increase wages. [1] https://www.dw.com/en/germany-taps-into-africas-it-sector-to-fill-labor-gap/a-65254237 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-taps-into-africas-it-sector-to...

carlmr 3y ago
I've been developing software in Germany for years now, and while offshoring never completely stopped, the trust in offshoring dropped a lot. And only very basic tasks are sent abroad, since cultural differences have made it impossible to trust any output. Eastern Europe has the advantage of a more closely related culture than India which was the prime offshoring target in the 90s, but as you say the salary differential isn't as large, meaning a lot of companies will think twice about the overhead.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  >cultural differences have made it impossible to trust any output That cuts both ways, with German culture (in IT/tech) being off-putting to many foreign talent as well, who tend to prefer anglophone countries or anglophone companies operating in Germany, and strictly avoid traditional German companies, for good reasons.

carlmr 3y ago

I've been developing software in Germany for years now, and while offshoring never completely stopped, the trust in offshoring dropped a lot. And only very basic tasks are sent abroad, since cultural differences have made it impossible to trust any output. Eastern Europe has the advantage of a more closely related culture than India which was the prime offshoring target in the 90s, but as you say the salary differential isn't as large, meaning a lot of companies will think twice about the overhead.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago
>cultural differences have made it impossible to trust any output That cuts both ways, with German culture (in IT/tech) being off-putting to many foreign talent as well, who tend to prefer anglophone countries or anglophone companies operating in Germany, and strictly avoid traditional German companies, for good reasons.