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US Coast Guard tweet follows media reports of 'banging sounds'

21 points by ghostpepper 3y ago

dagmx 3y ago
A lot of the morbid interest in this story reminds me of the Tool song “Vicarious” https://youtu.be/h_TUP2vuaDs https://youtu.be/h_TUP2vuaDs Eye on the TV 'Cause tragedy thrills me Whatever flavor It happens to be like "Killed by the husband" "Drowned by the ocean" "Shot by his own son" "She used the poison in his tea" And kissed him goodbye That's my kind of story It's no fun 'til someone dies
- mhitza 3y ago
  News media are always having a field day with shocking and dramatic events. Can add to those the lyrics from Marilyn Manson's, The Nobodies: Some children died the other day / We fed machines and then we prayed / Puked up and down in morbid faith / You should have seen the ratings that day
- netsharc 3y ago
  Aka "disaster porn".
- ethanbond 3y ago
  Which is particularly poetic (ironic? Morbid?) given that the submersible itself was up to pretty much the exact same thing.
atonse 3y ago
So I was wondering – are the militaries that are helping in this concerned at all about disclosing capabilities? Like, by the fact that a Canadian (NATO) aircraft picked up some sounds at (presumably) 12,400 feet depth, giving away a capability that they are able to hear sounds at that depth? Or are people in this "industry" (submarine warfare) probably already aware of all this from decades of cat and mouse technology games?
- chinathrow 3y ago
  That tweet did not state that they picked up these sounds at a depth of 12,400 ft, it just states "underwater noises". Could be at 10ft below, could be much lower.
andrewstuart 3y ago
I certainly hope they’ll be rescued but at nearly 4KM down it seems unlikely. Still, never know what the navy has in its bag of tricks.
lolc 3y ago
I'd expect a tourist sub to have emergency tanks that can be emptied using simple mechanical means when the sub loses maneuvering capability; maybe even a dead man's switch that causes the sub to resurface. And I'd expect emergency resurfacing actions to release buoys with beacons. So my assumption is that the sub got crushed or is stuck in the wreck of the Titanic. Which means there is no help possible and they are lost already. But maybe I wildly overestimate the sophistication of their rig? I also don't understand why they wouldn't operate on a tether, but maybe that was too expensive?
- chinathrow 3y ago
  You should check out the CBS report and watch through it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o
  - lolc 3y ago
    Nothing in that report came close to answering my questions.
    - chinathrow 3y ago
      > But maybe I wildly overestimate the sophistication of their rig? I think this question got indeed answered in the video, as I would answer it with a "yes". Have you seen the ballast setup where they have like metal tubes to release?
      - lolc 3y ago
        Ah right, yea that part was interesting.

21 points by ghostpepper 3y ago

A lot of the morbid interest in this story reminds me of the Tool song “Vicarious” https://youtu.be/h_TUP2vuaDs https://youtu.be/h_TUP2vuaDs Eye on the TV 'Cause tragedy thrills me Whatever flavor It happens to be like "Killed by the husband" "Drowned by the ocean" "Shot by his own son" "She used the poison in his tea" And kissed him goodbye That's my kind of story It's no fun 'til someone dies

mhitza 3y ago
News media are always having a field day with shocking and dramatic events. Can add to those the lyrics from Marilyn Manson's, The Nobodies: Some children died the other day / We fed machines and then we prayed / Puked up and down in morbid faith / You should have seen the ratings that day
netsharc 3y ago
Aka "disaster porn".
ethanbond 3y ago
Which is particularly poetic (ironic? Morbid?) given that the submersible itself was up to pretty much the exact same thing.

atonse 3y ago

So I was wondering – are the militaries that are helping in this concerned at all about disclosing capabilities? Like, by the fact that a Canadian (NATO) aircraft picked up some sounds at (presumably) 12,400 feet depth, giving away a capability that they are able to hear sounds at that depth? Or are people in this "industry" (submarine warfare) probably already aware of all this from decades of cat and mouse technology games?

chinathrow 3y ago
That tweet did not state that they picked up these sounds at a depth of 12,400 ft, it just states "underwater noises". Could be at 10ft below, could be much lower.

andrewstuart 3y ago

I certainly hope they’ll be rescued but at nearly 4KM down it seems unlikely. Still, never know what the navy has in its bag of tricks.

lolc 3y ago

I'd expect a tourist sub to have emergency tanks that can be emptied using simple mechanical means when the sub loses maneuvering capability; maybe even a dead man's switch that causes the sub to resurface. And I'd expect emergency resurfacing actions to release buoys with beacons. So my assumption is that the sub got crushed or is stuck in the wreck of the Titanic. Which means there is no help possible and they are lost already. But maybe I wildly overestimate the sophistication of their rig? I also don't understand why they wouldn't operate on a tether, but maybe that was too expensive?

chinathrow 3y ago
You should check out the CBS report and watch through it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o
- lolc 3y ago
  Nothing in that report came close to answering my questions.
  - chinathrow 3y ago
    > But maybe I wildly overestimate the sophistication of their rig? I think this question got indeed answered in the video, as I would answer it with a "yes". Have you seen the ballast setup where they have like metal tubes to release?
    - lolc 3y ago
      Ah right, yea that part was interesting.