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>his reputation is solid Eh, is it? Not sure if I consider him an authority on anything anymore. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/z2y8i0/from

>his reputation is solid Eh, is it? Not sure if I consider him an authority on anything anymore. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/z2y8i0/from_this_this_is_my_mission_an_i_will_accomplish/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/z2y8i0/fro... >This is the interview. Build this feature. You don't get source access. Link the GitHub and license it MIT. is akin to "Build this for free, license it MIT so I can use it without any issues, and oh, btw, I dont have authority to hire you, teehee."

jimmySixDOF 3y ago
Well he picked the right problem at the time which was (and still is!) search. I was really looking forward to some progress on this and then he deleted tweets and dropped off the system. I would love to see a podcast of him talking about that & fyi @realGeorgeHotz is back on it now to promote Tiny grad/box/corp.
- threeseed 3y ago
  As someone who has spent 20+ years working in large companies you can spot developers like him a mile away i.e. the sort of behaviour you see with skilled but arrogant grads/interns. The right approach when you're new is to quietly pick a simple problem away from the core services where you can learn the processes and polices needed to get something into Production. More so when you're in a company that is undergoing a brain drain. Then you can progressively move to solving more demanding and critical issues.
  - pseg134 3y ago
    You should write a book or a blog about how to not rock the boat at large companies. Maybe you can call it Going Nowhere Fast.
    - threeseed 3y ago
      You don't need a book about it when it's a concept children understand. Before you run you learn to walk.
      - pseg134 3y ago
        Some people were just born to run. Their legs don’t really work right for walking.
    - barrkel 3y ago
      Large companies normally (unlike Twitter) have achieved strong product market fit and are all about tweaks that deliver marginal revenue. Given that they already have a big slice of the market, the multiplier on marginal revenue makes what you're doing worthwhile. "Rocking the boat" is more likely than not to make things worse.
matteocontrini 3y ago
I remember watching a live stream [1] of him going through Twitter engineering articles and trying to reverse engineer the Twitter frontend and backend, and he clearly had absolutely no clue of how anything remotely related to the web works. He was just clicking around compulsively, jumping between stuff randomly without even reading it, while not understanding what he was looking at. I have no idea how he's successful in tech, judging from what I saw there. [1] https://youtu.be/z6xslDMimME https://youtu.be/z6xslDMimME
- joe-user 3y ago
  > I have no idea how he's successful in tech, judging from what I saw there. I think judging only from what you saw there is the issue. If you look somewhere like Wikipedia [0], you'll see he was the first person to jailbreak the iPhone, the first person to achieve hypervisor access to the PS3's CPU, he took first place in several notable CTFs (at least one time as a one-person team), he worked on Google's Project Zero team (and created a debugger called QIRA while he was there), creating comma.ai, and the list goes on. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz
  - hgsgm 3y ago
    He's good at breaking APIs. That's different skill from making APIs and things.

jimmySixDOF 3y ago

Well he picked the right problem at the time which was (and still is!) search. I was really looking forward to some progress on this and then he deleted tweets and dropped off the system. I would love to see a podcast of him talking about that & fyi @realGeorgeHotz is back on it now to promote Tiny grad/box/corp.

threeseed 3y ago
As someone who has spent 20+ years working in large companies you can spot developers like him a mile away i.e. the sort of behaviour you see with skilled but arrogant grads/interns. The right approach when you're new is to quietly pick a simple problem away from the core services where you can learn the processes and polices needed to get something into Production. More so when you're in a company that is undergoing a brain drain. Then you can progressively move to solving more demanding and critical issues.
- pseg134 3y ago
  You should write a book or a blog about how to not rock the boat at large companies. Maybe you can call it Going Nowhere Fast.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    You don't need a book about it when it's a concept children understand. Before you run you learn to walk.
    - pseg134 3y ago
      Some people were just born to run. Their legs don’t really work right for walking.
  - barrkel 3y ago
    Large companies normally (unlike Twitter) have achieved strong product market fit and are all about tweaks that deliver marginal revenue. Given that they already have a big slice of the market, the multiplier on marginal revenue makes what you're doing worthwhile. "Rocking the boat" is more likely than not to make things worse.

matteocontrini 3y ago

I remember watching a live stream [1] of him going through Twitter engineering articles and trying to reverse engineer the Twitter frontend and backend, and he clearly had absolutely no clue of how anything remotely related to the web works. He was just clicking around compulsively, jumping between stuff randomly without even reading it, while not understanding what he was looking at. I have no idea how he's successful in tech, judging from what I saw there. [1] https://youtu.be/z6xslDMimME https://youtu.be/z6xslDMimME

joe-user 3y ago
> I have no idea how he's successful in tech, judging from what I saw there. I think judging only from what you saw there is the issue. If you look somewhere like Wikipedia [0], you'll see he was the first person to jailbreak the iPhone, the first person to achieve hypervisor access to the PS3's CPU, he took first place in several notable CTFs (at least one time as a one-person team), he worked on Google's Project Zero team (and created a debugger called QIRA while he was there), creating comma.ai, and the list goes on. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz
- hgsgm 3y ago
  He's good at breaking APIs. That's different skill from making APIs and things.