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> it's simply ridiculous to think this class of apps don't provide value. They absolutely provide value. I’m not questioning that. I’m just sad and frustrated

> it's simply ridiculous to think this class of apps don't provide value. They absolutely provide value. I’m not questioning that. I’m just sad and frustrated by the lack of any better options for application developers. We desperately need a good, lightweight, feature rich, cross platform application framework. Making something good will probably need an 8-figure budget at a minimum. Unfortunately nobody with that kind of money seems invested enough to make it happen. As a result, every computer on the planet is either slower or more expensive than it needs to be in order to run Teams / Slack / Discord / etc etc. It feels like a coordination problem more than a technical problem, with users suffering the most.

palata 3y ago
> We desperately need a good, lightweight, feature rich, cross platform application framework. Or those services should just expose a damn API and allow third party apps. I don't see what would be wrong technically with a lightweight Slack CLI app, a native macOS app, etc. Damn it's just about showing text on a screen... writing a third-party Slack client could even be a nice student project. It just means that Slack needs to expose a proper API (unfortunately "proper" is not the norm in our industry), and probably there is a business reason to not allow it that I don't see right now (maybe just cargo cult or wrong assumptions, those are typical reasons behind business decisions).