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I've had EVs for 7+ years now and have plenty of experience with J1772, Chaedmo, and CCS. All I can say is thank heavens Tesla's connector is getting adopted!

I've had EVs for 7+ years now and have plenty of experience with J1772, Chaedmo, and CCS. All I can say is thank heavens Tesla's connector is getting adopted! It is the only connector that seems like it was designed with the ease-of-use regular people expect - not what us early adopter EV people will put up with. This kind of friction does impede adoption too.

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
As someone who has only ever used J1772/CCS, can you explain a bit more? I mean, it's just a plug that I stick into my car - I find the newer US home AC electric outlets with the automatic "safety shutters" harder to plug into than a CCS connector, so I don't really understand what friction you're referring to.
- neon_electro 3y ago
  As someone else with 5+ years driving EVs with a CCS plug, they work for me, but I can see them being much more unwieldy for physically challenged folks. The Tesla connector is easier to manipulate and line up correctly with the charge port.
  - kevin_thibedeau 3y ago
    Ultimately it's going to boil down to money. Having DC and AC charging share the same conductors makes the plug cables cheaper. That adds up when deploying and maintaining a charger network.
- damon_c 3y ago
  One concrete thing that is better about the Tesla connector is that there are no moving parts that user needs to manipulate. Tesla/NACs connector is just stick it in and it works... the car holds onto it until it is done or you tell it to let go. I don't think I've ever seen a public J1772 connector that had a functional spring in the little thumbpress/lock/turn on thing which means if you don't know you need to stick a key or pen cap, or squeeze really hard to pry the little fucking plastic tab up to the lock position, it just won't work.
  - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
    > I don't think I've ever seen a public J1772 connector that had a functional spring in the little thumbpress/lock/turn on thing which means if you don't know you need to stick a key or pen cap, or squeeze really hard to pry the little fucking plastic tab up to the lock position, it just won't work. I'm still a little baffled that people have all these problems. I've owned an EV for the past 6 years, I charge at public charging stations all the time (primarily ChargePoint and EA), and while I've had tons of problems with the chargers themselves (e.g. the charger just not working) I have never had a problem just sticking the charging plug into the outlet in my car.

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago

As someone who has only ever used J1772/CCS, can you explain a bit more? I mean, it's just a plug that I stick into my car - I find the newer US home AC electric outlets with the automatic "safety shutters" harder to plug into than a CCS connector, so I don't really understand what friction you're referring to.

neon_electro 3y ago
As someone else with 5+ years driving EVs with a CCS plug, they work for me, but I can see them being much more unwieldy for physically challenged folks. The Tesla connector is easier to manipulate and line up correctly with the charge port.
- kevin_thibedeau 3y ago
  Ultimately it's going to boil down to money. Having DC and AC charging share the same conductors makes the plug cables cheaper. That adds up when deploying and maintaining a charger network.
damon_c 3y ago
One concrete thing that is better about the Tesla connector is that there are no moving parts that user needs to manipulate. Tesla/NACs connector is just stick it in and it works... the car holds onto it until it is done or you tell it to let go. I don't think I've ever seen a public J1772 connector that had a functional spring in the little thumbpress/lock/turn on thing which means if you don't know you need to stick a key or pen cap, or squeeze really hard to pry the little fucking plastic tab up to the lock position, it just won't work.
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  > I don't think I've ever seen a public J1772 connector that had a functional spring in the little thumbpress/lock/turn on thing which means if you don't know you need to stick a key or pen cap, or squeeze really hard to pry the little fucking plastic tab up to the lock position, it just won't work. I'm still a little baffled that people have all these problems. I've owned an EV for the past 6 years, I charge at public charging stations all the time (primarily ChargePoint and EA), and while I've had tons of problems with the chargers themselves (e.g. the charger just not working) I have never had a problem just sticking the charging plug into the outlet in my car.