I completely agree with the lack of sophistication. A lot of that comes from (imho) not being around a culture of software engineering and typically being a sma

I completely agree with the lack of sophistication. A lot of that comes from (imho) not being around a culture of software engineering and typically being a small group inside a non-software business. Seattle is an example, at least when I was there, where people knew what they were doing and could get things done without the arrogance. Night and day from SV in my experience.