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> the ground crew at the airport held two safety briefings immediately before the plane arrived at the gate. >Employees were told they should not approach the

by vGPU 3y ago

> the ground crew at the airport held two safety briefings immediately before the plane arrived at the gate. >Employees were told they should not approach the plane until the engine was shut off and a beacon light was turned off, according to the NTSB report. She got TWO briefings not to approach the plane. > The National Transportation Safety Board released a preliminary report indicating a ramp worker who was pulled into an Embraer E175 jet engine and killed at Montgomery Regional Airport on Dec. 31 had walked too close to the running engine despite warnings. It was her fault for not following her training, from the details I can find. What was AA supposed to do aside from refusing to open the door to let ground crew outside?

everforward 3y ago
> What was AA supposed to do aside from refusing to open the door to let ground crew outside? Sure, that's a pretty reasonable option. Have someone be on door duty, and they keep it locked until the plane is shut off. Better yet would be some kind of interlock where the doors automatically lock while the turbines are running, but hardware changes are hard to make in aviation. Maybe give the pilot the responsibility to unlock those doors somehow as part of the offboarding procedures. > She got TWO briefings not to approach the plane. Sure, and yet we still put railings around high ledges although it would be obvious even without them that falling off would be bad. Circular saws come with guards on them, even though it's self-evident that the blade is the dangerous bit. Those robots that assemble cars in factories have a big cage around them. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that a device that can suck someone in and blend them from a substantial distance probably needs better safety guards than a lecture and a light bulb. People come to work tired, or with allergies, or sick, or hungover, or just out of it because personal issues and they forget to check that lightbulb that's always off by the time they get there anyways.
piloto_ciego 3y ago
i was a pilot for many years, the precautions taken were inadequate and the safety culture sounds “problematic at best.”

by vGPU 3y ago

everforward 3y ago

> What was AA supposed to do aside from refusing to open the door to let ground crew outside? Sure, that's a pretty reasonable option. Have someone be on door duty, and they keep it locked until the plane is shut off. Better yet would be some kind of interlock where the doors automatically lock while the turbines are running, but hardware changes are hard to make in aviation. Maybe give the pilot the responsibility to unlock those doors somehow as part of the offboarding procedures. > She got TWO briefings not to approach the plane. Sure, and yet we still put railings around high ledges although it would be obvious even without them that falling off would be bad. Circular saws come with guards on them, even though it's self-evident that the blade is the dangerous bit. Those robots that assemble cars in factories have a big cage around them. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that a device that can suck someone in and blend them from a substantial distance probably needs better safety guards than a lecture and a light bulb. People come to work tired, or with allergies, or sick, or hungover, or just out of it because personal issues and they forget to check that lightbulb that's always off by the time they get there anyways.

piloto_ciego 3y ago

i was a pilot for many years, the precautions taken were inadequate and the safety culture sounds “problematic at best.”