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He gave you a recent event and you conceded the point then suggested he use something else. And, DMCA is bad law but many companies make it worse in their over

He gave you a recent event and you conceded the point then suggested he use something else. And, DMCA is bad law but many companies make it worse in their overzealousness to "comply" with it.

tough 3y ago
I also couldn't find sources to care to respond to him but I remember about some little terminal app which FOSS code was basically stolen by MS from the indie dev and then he was gaslighted about it. I can't find the source in reddit thanks to the going dark thing now lmao. Can't find it now, so maybe I hallucinated it better than some fine LLM's If anyone else remembers this incident and can link to a source that'd be great for my sanity. Maybe similar to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17214257 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17214257 I do have a love-hate relationship with MS, but I don't love the fact that they own 80% of my stack (Yes, I know, my choice) between TypeScript, VSCode, NPM, Github, etc.. Also on VSCodium, it only fixes the telemetry bullshit, the custom LSP Plugins that microsoft keeps for themselves or whatever are not available there. so If you want to use for example copilot or other -microsoft official- plugins you can't do so on VSCodium Also let's add the whole Github Copilot WhiteWashing non-FOSS proprietary code into anyone to steal. Basically breaking the current status quo in favour of the megacorps that can steal it all and respect no licenses
- ayewo 3y ago
  You might have been thinking of AppGet which got killed by Microsoft's WinGet https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287
  - tough 3y ago
    Yes thank you also had seen this one but didn't remember the specifics, there's so many cases it's wild.
- pentium166 3y ago
  > If anyone else remembers this incident and can link to a source that'd be great for my sanity. This incident was Casey Muratori raising an issue about Windows Terminal performance: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761 https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1687287343&dateRange=custom&dateStart=1622505600&page=0&prefix=true&query=muratori%20terminal&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1687287343&dateRange=custom&...
  - tough 3y ago
    Yes thank you this is what I meant, I also actually remembered about AppGet pointed by a sibling comment. I wouldn't trust MS with my business as an indie dev, that's all And I wouldn't trust their -true- intentions on FOSS beyond how their incentives align currently with the space
- 6c696e7578 3y ago
  Couldn't find what you were looking for, but did find this one: https://www.itprotoday.com/windows-78/inside-story-how-microsofts-open-source-code-theft-was-discovered
gtirloni 3y ago
> He gave you a recent event and you conceded the point then suggested he use something else. Not really. It was a good point but it wasn't clearcut. Of course I don't think the VScode situation is great but it's far from being "the biggest enemy of FOSS". That's why I was wondering if there were any other recent events. I've not been keeping track, truly.
- tough 3y ago
  I think there's enough recent events pointed by other commenters to at least be able to say with certain grade of truth to it that Microsoft isn't the biggest friend of FOSS as much as they pretend to be with stuff like WSL or whatever
  - gtirloni 3y ago
    The discussion is around MSFT being the biggest enemy though.

He gave you a recent event and you conceded the point then suggested he use something else. And, DMCA is bad law but many companies make it worse in their overzealousness to "comply" with it.

tough 3y ago

I also couldn't find sources to care to respond to him but I remember about some little terminal app which FOSS code was basically stolen by MS from the indie dev and then he was gaslighted about it. I can't find the source in reddit thanks to the going dark thing now lmao. Can't find it now, so maybe I hallucinated it better than some fine LLM's If anyone else remembers this incident and can link to a source that'd be great for my sanity. Maybe similar to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17214257 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17214257 I do have a love-hate relationship with MS, but I don't love the fact that they own 80% of my stack (Yes, I know, my choice) between TypeScript, VSCode, NPM, Github, etc.. Also on VSCodium, it only fixes the telemetry bullshit, the custom LSP Plugins that microsoft keeps for themselves or whatever are not available there. so If you want to use for example copilot or other -microsoft official- plugins you can't do so on VSCodium Also let's add the whole Github Copilot WhiteWashing non-FOSS proprietary code into anyone to steal. Basically breaking the current status quo in favour of the megacorps that can steal it all and respect no licenses

ayewo 3y ago
You might have been thinking of AppGet which got killed by Microsoft's WinGet https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331287
- tough 3y ago
  Yes thank you also had seen this one but didn't remember the specifics, there's so many cases it's wild.
pentium166 3y ago
> If anyone else remembers this incident and can link to a source that'd be great for my sanity. This incident was Casey Muratori raising an issue about Windows Terminal performance: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761 https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1522471966929653761 https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1687287343&dateRange=custom&dateStart=1622505600&page=0&prefix=true&query=muratori%20terminal&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1687287343&dateRange=custom&...
- tough 3y ago
  Yes thank you this is what I meant, I also actually remembered about AppGet pointed by a sibling comment. I wouldn't trust MS with my business as an indie dev, that's all And I wouldn't trust their -true- intentions on FOSS beyond how their incentives align currently with the space
6c696e7578 3y ago
Couldn't find what you were looking for, but did find this one: https://www.itprotoday.com/windows-78/inside-story-how-microsofts-open-source-code-theft-was-discovered

gtirloni 3y ago

> He gave you a recent event and you conceded the point then suggested he use something else. Not really. It was a good point but it wasn't clearcut. Of course I don't think the VScode situation is great but it's far from being "the biggest enemy of FOSS". That's why I was wondering if there were any other recent events. I've not been keeping track, truly.

tough 3y ago
I think there's enough recent events pointed by other commenters to at least be able to say with certain grade of truth to it that Microsoft isn't the biggest friend of FOSS as much as they pretend to be with stuff like WSL or whatever
- gtirloni 3y ago
  The discussion is around MSFT being the biggest enemy though.