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I was always of the impression that this is an extremely crowded space. What does Render bring to the table that's new?

by Tade0 3y ago

franciscop 3y ago
This feels like an extremely _sparse_ space as a user. There was Heroku, which was the undisputed hero when launched and for many years, until they got acquired and things started going down and down. Then currently AFAIK there's Fly and Render, and very few alternatives. AWS/GCS is not in the same space, they are a lot lower level. For someone like me I'd hate having to move to AWS/GCS, I just want to code my project locally, git push and it's live, no fumble with devops stuff. Also Firebase etc is a bit too high level for what I like, I still like to build the project locally and have it run on my computer fully.
- joshmanders 3y ago
  > until they got acquired and things started going down and down. In Heroku's defense, much of what we know and love them for was started before Salesforce acquired them, but then was accelerated and launched while under Salesforce. They just got very stagnant after a while and focused more on Salesforce integrations and that lately.
sergiotapia 3y ago
It's not crowded at all. There's four big kahunas I see competing: - Render - Railway - Northflank - Fly From easiest to hardest, in the sense of Heroku like to AWS like, I would scale them like so: Heroku------------------------------AWS Render Railway Northflank Fly Render is definitely the easiest, most friendly and predictable of the four.
- ksajadi 3y ago
  Like the text based diagram, clever! I'd place Cloud 66 in the middle.
- cpursley 3y ago
  I'm a fan of render. As easy to set up as Heroku. Runs distributed Elixir like a charm.
- subpixel 3y ago
  Is Netlify not in there somewhere? I guess I'm not sure what Netlify is focused on.
  - sergiotapia 3y ago
    I don't consider them or vercel part of this type of hosting. Those two are strictly javascript/node, or so it appears to me. I don't see how you would host a Phoenix project in Vercel.

I was always of the impression that this is an extremely crowded space. What does Render bring to the table that's new?

by Tade0 3y ago

I was always of the impression that this is an extremely crowded space. What does Render bring to the table that's new?

This feels like an extremely _sparse_ space as a user. There was Heroku, which was the undisputed hero when launched and for many years, until they got acquired and things started going down and down. Then currently AFAIK there's Fly and Render, and very few alternatives. AWS/GCS is not in the same space, they are a lot lower level. For someone like me I'd hate having to move to AWS/GCS, I just want to code my project locally, git push and it's live, no fumble with devops stuff. Also Firebase etc is a bit too high level for what I like, I still like to build the project locally and have it run on my computer fully.

joshmanders 3y ago
> until they got acquired and things started going down and down. In Heroku's defense, much of what we know and love them for was started before Salesforce acquired them, but then was accelerated and launched while under Salesforce. They just got very stagnant after a while and focused more on Salesforce integrations and that lately.

sergiotapia 3y ago

It's not crowded at all. There's four big kahunas I see competing: - Render - Railway - Northflank - Fly From easiest to hardest, in the sense of Heroku like to AWS like, I would scale them like so: Heroku------------------------------AWS Render Railway Northflank Fly Render is definitely the easiest, most friendly and predictable of the four.

ksajadi 3y ago
Like the text based diagram, clever! I'd place Cloud 66 in the middle.
cpursley 3y ago
I'm a fan of render. As easy to set up as Heroku. Runs distributed Elixir like a charm.
subpixel 3y ago
Is Netlify not in there somewhere? I guess I'm not sure what Netlify is focused on.
- sergiotapia 3y ago
  I don't consider them or vercel part of this type of hosting. Those two are strictly javascript/node, or so it appears to me. I don't see how you would host a Phoenix project in Vercel.