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Except that the author explicitly said command-tilde didn't work for their requirements.

Zetice 3y ago
Except it does based on their description of their problem, my point is I don't believe them. This begins to look like the kind of article someone might write when they have a deadline and nothing else to say...
- retrocryptid 3y ago
  Except that the author EXPLICITLY says it does not work for them.
  - inconceivable 3y ago
    lmao the claim is that the author is bullshitting, not whatever you're talking about.
    - retrocryptid 3y ago
      Read the article. The author explicitly mentions the list of things they don't like. It's completely fine that you like it. Neither I nor the author are attacking you for liking a feature of macOS. We are both saying there are features we don't like and would like Apple to keep trying for better alternatives. In this sense, I'm using the word "alternatives" to mean people who like the existing interface can continue to use the existing interface, but those of us who do not like it can have an alternate, improved experience.
      - Zetice 3y ago
        I was just (playfully, I hope) saying the trick of putting the apparent solution at the top of your article in an ironic "this doesn't work" way isn't an effective way of addressing why that solution doesn't work here.
- ebiester 3y ago
  Oh, I'm another person that command-~ doesn't work for. I mean, it can work, but let's say I am working with three apps - two of them are web apps in their own chrome windows, three more chrome windows that I don't care about at the moment, and Numbers. I need to swap between the two because the monitor isn't big enough to show all the information at the same time. I have to think about whether I want to tab or tilde at the moment, and then I have to make sure to minimize anything I'm not actively working on (or move it to a different space.) But if I want something on a different space, then I have to think about moving over there because command-~ won't go there. So, I have to keep context in my mind that I want to Just Work. I think if I could split out things like gmail, google calendar, or other SAASes rather than being separate windows I'd be better off. (I've created electron apps for some of these in the past, but it does make links out of them messy.) I have a large screen most of the time, so I can keep the necessary context on the screen, but it becomes a larger problem when I'm on just the laptop screen.
  - Zetice 3y ago
    Yes, you have to think when you use tools that you aren't familiar with. How is this a legitimate complaint? Your brain is not yet wired to handle the additional functionality, but you blame the functionality for that, and not your brain?!
    - ebiester 3y ago
      I've been using Mac for 9 years consistently and it still is unpleasant. It's a bad system because it doesn't account for web applications being independent applications, as mentioned above. I'm hopeful for the Web Apps functionality, though it won't help for SaaS software that only supports Chrome - there is enough blame to go around there, though. I hate that I have to meticulously order windows and keep a mental map of the order of my web browser windows instead of a more streamlined experience. It gives that unpleasant mental shock that bad user experiences do, and it happens on a weekly basis. After 9 years, that's not my fault and it's not just me. And how is something like Rectangle still not built in?
      - 3y ago

Except it does based on their description of their problem, my point is I don't believe them. This begins to look like the kind of article someone might write when they have a deadline and nothing else to say...

retrocryptid 3y ago
Except that the author EXPLICITLY says it does not work for them.
- inconceivable 3y ago
  lmao the claim is that the author is bullshitting, not whatever you're talking about.
  - retrocryptid 3y ago
    Read the article. The author explicitly mentions the list of things they don't like. It's completely fine that you like it. Neither I nor the author are attacking you for liking a feature of macOS. We are both saying there are features we don't like and would like Apple to keep trying for better alternatives. In this sense, I'm using the word "alternatives" to mean people who like the existing interface can continue to use the existing interface, but those of us who do not like it can have an alternate, improved experience.
    - Zetice 3y ago
      I was just (playfully, I hope) saying the trick of putting the apparent solution at the top of your article in an ironic "this doesn't work" way isn't an effective way of addressing why that solution doesn't work here.
ebiester 3y ago
Oh, I'm another person that command-~ doesn't work for. I mean, it can work, but let's say I am working with three apps - two of them are web apps in their own chrome windows, three more chrome windows that I don't care about at the moment, and Numbers. I need to swap between the two because the monitor isn't big enough to show all the information at the same time. I have to think about whether I want to tab or tilde at the moment, and then I have to make sure to minimize anything I'm not actively working on (or move it to a different space.) But if I want something on a different space, then I have to think about moving over there because command-~ won't go there. So, I have to keep context in my mind that I want to Just Work. I think if I could split out things like gmail, google calendar, or other SAASes rather than being separate windows I'd be better off. (I've created electron apps for some of these in the past, but it does make links out of them messy.) I have a large screen most of the time, so I can keep the necessary context on the screen, but it becomes a larger problem when I'm on just the laptop screen.
- Zetice 3y ago
  Yes, you have to think when you use tools that you aren't familiar with. How is this a legitimate complaint? Your brain is not yet wired to handle the additional functionality, but you blame the functionality for that, and not your brain?!
  - ebiester 3y ago
    I've been using Mac for 9 years consistently and it still is unpleasant. It's a bad system because it doesn't account for web applications being independent applications, as mentioned above. I'm hopeful for the Web Apps functionality, though it won't help for SaaS software that only supports Chrome - there is enough blame to go around there, though. I hate that I have to meticulously order windows and keep a mental map of the order of my web browser windows instead of a more streamlined experience. It gives that unpleasant mental shock that bad user experiences do, and it happens on a weekly basis. After 9 years, that's not my fault and it's not just me. And how is something like Rectangle still not built in?
    - 3y ago