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There's something super dystopian that we look at a cancer-causing, bone-marrow-killing chemical and go "look, we can use this for weight loss!". I get fatness

There's something super dystopian that we look at a cancer-causing, bone-marrow-killing chemical and go "look, we can use this for weight loss!". I get fatness is a plague or whatever but thin == healthy is totally broken if you're using poison to get thin.

xkcd-sucks 3y ago
If you're into super ~metal~ dystopian weight loss aids that are available today, check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol
- Firmwarrior 3y ago
  It sounds like something out of a cartoon It's an explosive compound that causes you to overheat and die if ingested in too large a dose
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
    All I can says is: I learned something new today.
- rybosworld 3y ago
  I remember reading that body builders and models will take this. It basically causes your mitochondria to work less efficiently, and thus burn more calories. Take too much and you will die because your body can't regulate it's temperature. Scary stuff.
- EatingWithForks 3y ago
  Yeah frankly I'd rather fat people stay fat and focus on lifestyle changes to health, fat or not, than eating life threatening explosives to get thin.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    I agree with your opinion, but the other way to look at it is that most fat people know they are fat, "want" to do something about it, but just don't because losing weight is really hard, from a human level. Millions of years of evolution are working against you to lose fat stores, because 99.99% of people who have ever done that starved to death. If sketchy drugs are the only ACTUAL way to get the 3/4ths of the country to lose weight and be healthier, shouldn't we try it? Though, the end result of that is probably finding out that if you are a "healthy" weight from drugs, but your diet is still mainly mcdonalds and steaks and food made mostly of butter, you probably will have just as many health problems. And there's no exercise drug.
    - EatingWithForks 3y ago
      > If sketchy drugs are the only ACTUAL way to get the 3/4ths of the country to lose weight and be healthier, shouldn't we try it? Well the thing is, I actually am super skeptical that eating explosive poison is healthier than being a fatty. I am way more optimistic for wegovy and other hunger-regulating hormone treatments that don't seem to cause you to die from overheating, and I'm all for fat people taking them if it helps them be healthier. But like, I'd rather a fat person stay fat and work on doing runs (even though exercise doesn't help much in losing weight, exercise is still good for fat people) than change nothing about their lifestyle besides eating poison. Skinny isn't always == healthy and shouldn't be treated like an "at any costs" measure. A great way to lose 25% of your body weight is to chop off a leg, but chopping off legs is obviously a stupid way to get healthy.
- zinclozenge 3y ago
  "Available" is a generous word. It's actually pretty hard to find even from underground anabolic steroid sellers. The only reason I was able to get my hands on it was because a seller was getting rid of his stock. The main reason is that it's actually pretty crummy for fat loss. If you actually want to lose weight you'd probably be pointed to a low dose of hgh, which has a ton of other benefits to help you lose fat.

xkcd-sucks 3y ago

If you're into super ~metal~ dystopian weight loss aids that are available today, check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol

Firmwarrior 3y ago
It sounds like something out of a cartoon It's an explosive compound that causes you to overheat and die if ingested in too large a dose
- A4ET8a8uTh0 3y ago
  All I can says is: I learned something new today.
rybosworld 3y ago
I remember reading that body builders and models will take this. It basically causes your mitochondria to work less efficiently, and thus burn more calories. Take too much and you will die because your body can't regulate it's temperature. Scary stuff.
EatingWithForks 3y ago
Yeah frankly I'd rather fat people stay fat and focus on lifestyle changes to health, fat or not, than eating life threatening explosives to get thin.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  I agree with your opinion, but the other way to look at it is that most fat people know they are fat, "want" to do something about it, but just don't because losing weight is really hard, from a human level. Millions of years of evolution are working against you to lose fat stores, because 99.99% of people who have ever done that starved to death. If sketchy drugs are the only ACTUAL way to get the 3/4ths of the country to lose weight and be healthier, shouldn't we try it? Though, the end result of that is probably finding out that if you are a "healthy" weight from drugs, but your diet is still mainly mcdonalds and steaks and food made mostly of butter, you probably will have just as many health problems. And there's no exercise drug.
  - EatingWithForks 3y ago
    > If sketchy drugs are the only ACTUAL way to get the 3/4ths of the country to lose weight and be healthier, shouldn't we try it? Well the thing is, I actually am super skeptical that eating explosive poison is healthier than being a fatty. I am way more optimistic for wegovy and other hunger-regulating hormone treatments that don't seem to cause you to die from overheating, and I'm all for fat people taking them if it helps them be healthier. But like, I'd rather a fat person stay fat and work on doing runs (even though exercise doesn't help much in losing weight, exercise is still good for fat people) than change nothing about their lifestyle besides eating poison. Skinny isn't always == healthy and shouldn't be treated like an "at any costs" measure. A great way to lose 25% of your body weight is to chop off a leg, but chopping off legs is obviously a stupid way to get healthy.
zinclozenge 3y ago
"Available" is a generous word. It's actually pretty hard to find even from underground anabolic steroid sellers. The only reason I was able to get my hands on it was because a seller was getting rid of his stock. The main reason is that it's actually pretty crummy for fat loss. If you actually want to lose weight you'd probably be pointed to a low dose of hgh, which has a ton of other benefits to help you lose fat.