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I was a part of a study with San Diego state which followed my through my life until I told them to stop... The study was to see how different people from diff

I was a part of a study with San Diego state which followed my through my life until I told them to stop... The study was to see how different people from differing socio-economic backgrounds turned out as they got older... When I was about ~16/17 I told them to kick rocks. They used to show up every year and interview me for an hour about how my life was progressing... I lived on a famous hippy commune in Lafayette California until I was 4 years old... My mom knew Jim Jones (of the koolaid fame) and a bunch of other famous people from San Francisco in the 1970s... Later, I found an article in Playboy Magazine (yes, no funny joke there) which was taken with the founder of the commune, Vik Baranco (I dont know how to spell his name) where he recvealed that the commune was being followed by the CIA... I think the study from UCSD was a CIA front as I spoke with other kids from the commune and the weird shit that happened to them.... - EDIT: my mom was doing acid with the grateful dead, fleetwod mac, and a bunch of other people... who probably dont want to be named... anyway - the 1970s and 1980s were briliant for computers.... BECAUSE OF ACID... Look at Cisco, they developed the core of BGP while on acid in a hot-tub in Sunnyvale... So much of tech is tied with psychs.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
The weird stuff was definitely the CIA, and not say, I dunno... the questionable life choices of someone who hung out with Jim Jones and hippy commune cult leaders.
- coldtea 3y ago
  Obviously there would be weird stuff around Jim Jones and hippy communes. Parent didn't say anything about any "weird stuff" being by the CIA. They said the "study by UCSD" might have been a front for CIA.
- samstave 3y ago
  Hey, I'm not going to argue with you... but it WAS fn weird... and a part of my life's dialogue. Can I write you a book on growing up in a family that built California? You know why there are so many places and streets named 'Folsom' <-- my great-great-uncle I know a lot of shit. My great grandfather was ticketed MANY times when they were first installing street lights in SF to "NO MACHINE IS GOING TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO" (I kinda inherited that)
  - NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
    The CIA are assholes, and they do routinely violate the rights of Americans (even today, though it was probably worse decades ago). But their interests are narrow. What about that would have piqued their curiosity? If you are right, does that mean one of the hippies was some Soviet asset? And even then, that's got to be the worst cover story ever. On the other hand, the Feebs were really bad at counterintel tradecraft, but it's difficult to imagine them being sophisticated enough to pull off an academic cover like that. Maybe I was harsh. Near as I can tell, almost all of those agencies were into some seriously stupid shit (when did they give up on psychic phenomena research again?), but it still just doesn't strike me as plausible. I've having trouble processing it. If you ever do write that book, plug it here so I have a chance of noticing it, would ya?
- samstave 3y ago
  Yeah, snide-ness aside, you'd be suprised what happened in the 1970s among the 'hip' crowd in San Francisco.... Ever know about Charlie Manson's CIA fixers, for example? (haight street SF) - I dont have time to give you a history lesson on the CIA and silicon valley... Go apply at palantir if you want to know what is going on....
latchkey 3y ago
Vic Baranco http://www.lafayettemorehouse.com/index.html http://www.lafayettemorehouse.com/index.html
coldtea 3y ago
>which followed my through my life until I told them to stop. Plot twist: or, perhaps, even after that!
brandall10 3y ago
Interesting. The Jonestown "doctor" who devised the Flavor Aid solution was in my dad's social circle at the University of Houston in the late 60s. UCSD is my alma mater (different school from San Diego State fwiw).
AnIdiotOnTheNet 3y ago
Hypercard was also dreamed up while on an acid trip, IIRC.
- samstave 3y ago
  We had one of the first TV studios powered on APPLE ][e machines... And youre not going to like this, the TV station was called "CLIT" (my first job was in middle school de-soldering mem chips from app mainboards (un-related to the above, but still related in more ways than one)
duderific 3y ago
I happened to live in that area of Lafayette when I was a kid, in the late 70s - early 80s. From over the hill from my house, we could see all these purple buildings. I'm pretty sure that's the commune you're describing. As kids we didn't really know what was going on over there, but we knew it was something a bit...unusual.
- samstave 3y ago
  Yup, the "purple people" it was vics' wifes' personal farvorite color... so all the houses were purple... I have many stories. - - my dad was his personal body guard... if you want to hear crazy stories from the 1980s, Tahoe, and Cocaine and the bay area, ... uh... yeah... these bitches were flying TONS TONS did I make that specific? Tons into trukee ( south lake tahoe ) where do you think all the coke in vegas came from?
  - duderific 3y ago
    Yeah. I remember there was talk that it was a "nudist colony" so we'd peek over, hoping to see something ... but we never really did see any people outside the buildings. I was too young to really understand the hippie/drug angle so it didn't factor in, but now when I think back, yeah, makes a lot of sense.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago

The weird stuff was definitely the CIA, and not say, I dunno... the questionable life choices of someone who hung out with Jim Jones and hippy commune cult leaders.

coldtea 3y ago
Obviously there would be weird stuff around Jim Jones and hippy communes. Parent didn't say anything about any "weird stuff" being by the CIA. They said the "study by UCSD" might have been a front for CIA.
samstave 3y ago
Hey, I'm not going to argue with you... but it WAS fn weird... and a part of my life's dialogue. Can I write you a book on growing up in a family that built California? You know why there are so many places and streets named 'Folsom' <-- my great-great-uncle I know a lot of shit. My great grandfather was ticketed MANY times when they were first installing street lights in SF to "NO MACHINE IS GOING TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO" (I kinda inherited that)
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  The CIA are assholes, and they do routinely violate the rights of Americans (even today, though it was probably worse decades ago). But their interests are narrow. What about that would have piqued their curiosity? If you are right, does that mean one of the hippies was some Soviet asset? And even then, that's got to be the worst cover story ever. On the other hand, the Feebs were really bad at counterintel tradecraft, but it's difficult to imagine them being sophisticated enough to pull off an academic cover like that. Maybe I was harsh. Near as I can tell, almost all of those agencies were into some seriously stupid shit (when did they give up on psychic phenomena research again?), but it still just doesn't strike me as plausible. I've having trouble processing it. If you ever do write that book, plug it here so I have a chance of noticing it, would ya?
samstave 3y ago
Yeah, snide-ness aside, you'd be suprised what happened in the 1970s among the 'hip' crowd in San Francisco.... Ever know about Charlie Manson's CIA fixers, for example? (haight street SF) - I dont have time to give you a history lesson on the CIA and silicon valley... Go apply at palantir if you want to know what is going on....

latchkey 3y ago

Vic Baranco http://www.lafayettemorehouse.com/index.html http://www.lafayettemorehouse.com/index.html

coldtea 3y ago

>which followed my through my life until I told them to stop. Plot twist: or, perhaps, even after that!

brandall10 3y ago

Interesting. The Jonestown "doctor" who devised the Flavor Aid solution was in my dad's social circle at the University of Houston in the late 60s. UCSD is my alma mater (different school from San Diego State fwiw).

AnIdiotOnTheNet 3y ago

Hypercard was also dreamed up while on an acid trip, IIRC.

samstave 3y ago
We had one of the first TV studios powered on APPLE ][e machines... And youre not going to like this, the TV station was called "CLIT" (my first job was in middle school de-soldering mem chips from app mainboards (un-related to the above, but still related in more ways than one)

duderific 3y ago

I happened to live in that area of Lafayette when I was a kid, in the late 70s - early 80s. From over the hill from my house, we could see all these purple buildings. I'm pretty sure that's the commune you're describing. As kids we didn't really know what was going on over there, but we knew it was something a bit...unusual.

samstave 3y ago
Yup, the "purple people" it was vics' wifes' personal farvorite color... so all the houses were purple... I have many stories. - - my dad was his personal body guard... if you want to hear crazy stories from the 1980s, Tahoe, and Cocaine and the bay area, ... uh... yeah... these bitches were flying TONS TONS did I make that specific? Tons into trukee ( south lake tahoe ) where do you think all the coke in vegas came from?
- duderific 3y ago
  Yeah. I remember there was talk that it was a "nudist colony" so we'd peek over, hoping to see something ... but we never really did see any people outside the buildings. I was too young to really understand the hippie/drug angle so it didn't factor in, but now when I think back, yeah, makes a lot of sense.