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I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to

I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to move (unlike moving to a new apartment or house). You’re not required to delete your Reddit account either. Am I missing something here?

bigyikes 3y ago
It’s because Lemmy isn’t actually compelling outside of a few niche circles.
- chongli 3y ago
  The same can be said about Reddit. I’m not subscribed to any of the big subreddits there. I use it for niche communities. To me, that’s the whole point! Lemmy’s having some growing pains right now (spinning wheel of death) but I’m confident they’ll be resolved. At that point, it’ll be much nicer to use, so I’m pretty happy with that. As for people hoping to one day “jump over,” I think that’s a mistake with almost anything. Dip your toe in, don’t go “all in” on anything you’ve never used before. You’re much less likely to end up extremely disappointed that way.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  In my experience, private instances of PhpBB forums provide niche webtools that are necessary for community building that Reddit could never replace. The Tetris community created a Javascript gui called Fumen (https://harddrop.com/fumen/ https://harddrop.com/fumen/), that can be embedded into PhpBB forums. The chess community created Javascript GUIs that read/write .pgn files (aka: move-history files) to help the community discuss games. The Go community created a similar GUI for Go games. Etc. etc. ----------- Since the administrator controls the whole webpage (including Javascript), you can host local tools in a Reddit-like environment. I think people are sleeping on the potential here, especially if you've never used these custom web-GUIs before.
izzydata 3y ago
I think those are two independent actions. They would probably delete their reddit data regardless of Lemmy working out or not.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? I did, twice. It took at least half an hour between bugs and scanning HN for answers to questions I was repeatedly told I shouldn’t be asking. (Like, how do I choose a server and what consequences does that decision bring. Questions which, after a defederation and onboarding bug and login bug, seemed quite pertinent.) Then there was minimal content, and to top it off, buttons that spin without doing anything half the time.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I feel like I've seen your comments before... my understanding of you is that you'd probably enjoy the https://programming.dev https://programming.dev, although the signup process there is a bit harder. The admins at https://Lemmy.world https://Lemmy.world continues to fix various bugs / performance issues. ---------- It looks like Beehaw.org curated the strongest community "before the #RedditBlackout". based on my browsing there, they're more focused on their various topics (anime, technology, programming), rather than the RedditBlackout... which is a much healthier long-term community feel. Alas, they have only kept that because they have made signups difficult. Hopefully, Beehaw.org opens back up as the RedditBlackout wave subsides. They do plan to refederate in the long term, but only after new moderation-tools are created. No idea how long that would take, but no one seems to expect this particular defedization to stay forever. --------- The communities that focus on... well... community... will win in the medium term. I recognize that most people are using Lemmy because they're angry at Reddit (and that's fine enough to create a short-term community). But people need to start thinking about what kind of community they want to create on Lemmy now, and not just be part of an angry protest. Its happening, but slowly. Its harder to community-build than it is to just get angry and protest a webpage.
  - chongli 3y ago
    100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I see them being discussed. I don’t see them as “real issues” with lemmy though. They’re bugs to be fixed, not fundamental problems with the federation model.
rgreekguy 3y ago
I'm on the same plane as that guy. I'm still holding on because... Lemmy sucks ;) Everyone is going there now, there are issues. Let's stick on Reddit, the feed is actually a bit better now that some less popular subreddits show up, with all others protesting in some way or another, and it's expected Lemmy will kneel under the big influx of users. There were such reports from the first or second day of "subreddits going dark," if I'm not wrong. It will be there tomorrow, too.

bigyikes 3y ago

It’s because Lemmy isn’t actually compelling outside of a few niche circles.

chongli 3y ago
The same can be said about Reddit. I’m not subscribed to any of the big subreddits there. I use it for niche communities. To me, that’s the whole point! Lemmy’s having some growing pains right now (spinning wheel of death) but I’m confident they’ll be resolved. At that point, it’ll be much nicer to use, so I’m pretty happy with that. As for people hoping to one day “jump over,” I think that’s a mistake with almost anything. Dip your toe in, don’t go “all in” on anything you’ve never used before. You’re much less likely to end up extremely disappointed that way.
dragontamer 3y ago
In my experience, private instances of PhpBB forums provide niche webtools that are necessary for community building that Reddit could never replace. The Tetris community created a Javascript gui called Fumen (https://harddrop.com/fumen/ https://harddrop.com/fumen/), that can be embedded into PhpBB forums. The chess community created Javascript GUIs that read/write .pgn files (aka: move-history files) to help the community discuss games. The Go community created a similar GUI for Go games. Etc. etc. ----------- Since the administrator controls the whole webpage (including Javascript), you can host local tools in a Reddit-like environment. I think people are sleeping on the potential here, especially if you've never used these custom web-GUIs before.

izzydata 3y ago

I think those are two independent actions. They would probably delete their reddit data regardless of Lemmy working out or not.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? I did, twice. It took at least half an hour between bugs and scanning HN for answers to questions I was repeatedly told I shouldn’t be asking. (Like, how do I choose a server and what consequences does that decision bring. Questions which, after a defederation and onboarding bug and login bug, seemed quite pertinent.) Then there was minimal content, and to top it off, buttons that spin without doing anything half the time.

dragontamer 3y ago
100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I feel like I've seen your comments before... my understanding of you is that you'd probably enjoy the https://programming.dev https://programming.dev, although the signup process there is a bit harder. The admins at https://Lemmy.world https://Lemmy.world continues to fix various bugs / performance issues. ---------- It looks like Beehaw.org curated the strongest community "before the #RedditBlackout". based on my browsing there, they're more focused on their various topics (anime, technology, programming), rather than the RedditBlackout... which is a much healthier long-term community feel. Alas, they have only kept that because they have made signups difficult. Hopefully, Beehaw.org opens back up as the RedditBlackout wave subsides. They do plan to refederate in the long term, but only after new moderation-tools are created. No idea how long that would take, but no one seems to expect this particular defedization to stay forever. --------- The communities that focus on... well... community... will win in the medium term. I recognize that most people are using Lemmy because they're angry at Reddit (and that's fine enough to create a short-term community). But people need to start thinking about what kind of community they want to create on Lemmy now, and not just be part of an angry protest. Its happening, but slowly. Its harder to community-build than it is to just get angry and protest a webpage.
- chongli 3y ago
  100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I see them being discussed. I don’t see them as “real issues” with lemmy though. They’re bugs to be fixed, not fundamental problems with the federation model.

rgreekguy 3y ago

I'm on the same plane as that guy. I'm still holding on because... Lemmy sucks ;) Everyone is going there now, there are issues. Let's stick on Reddit, the feed is actually a bit better now that some less popular subreddits show up, with all others protesting in some way or another, and it's expected Lemmy will kneel under the big influx of users. There were such reports from the first or second day of "subreddits going dark," if I'm not wrong. It will be there tomorrow, too.