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The current top-of-the-line LG OLEDs hit ~1500 nits in HDR: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g3-oled https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g3-oled The QD-OL

by klausa 3y ago

The current top-of-the-line LG OLEDs hit ~1500 nits in HDR: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g3-oled https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/g3-oled The QD-OLEDs from Samsung which use a similar trick as their "Quantum-Dot" LCDs do, also hit similar levels: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/s95c-oled#page-test-compared https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/s95c-oled#page-tes...

rbranson 3y ago
Peak small-window nits is not the proper Rtings metric for viewing in a bright room. It's Sustained 100%, which is only ~300 nits on the brightest, most expensive OLED panel on the market. A bright LCD panel puts out 600-800 nits here. This is the closest metric to something like watching sports in a well-lit room.
- arghwhat 3y ago
  rtings "real scene" brightness is a better measure than 100% sustained - I think some brightness limiting is acceptable for a fully white screen. Still, that's 500 for the those OLED sets vs 1200 for the QN90B.
arghwhat 3y ago
Both of those tests report real SDR brightness of 500 nits, or 600 for 10% sustained. The QN90B test reports 1200 nits and 2000 (!) nits respectively: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90b-qled https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90b-qled Real scene SDR brightness is all that matters for use in a bright room, as it represents the overall brightness of the screen when playing normal content. HDR brightness on the other hand is only observed in certain scenes of particular HDR content mastered to use it - not to mention that such HDR content is more likely to be consumed in a dark room to enjoy the darker details not present in SDR. I think the limiting factor right now on those new OLED sets is thermal throttling and power limits. But all is not bad - it shows great promise of near a future where self-emissive panels have food brightness.

by klausa 3y ago

rbranson 3y ago

Peak small-window nits is not the proper Rtings metric for viewing in a bright room. It's Sustained 100%, which is only ~300 nits on the brightest, most expensive OLED panel on the market. A bright LCD panel puts out 600-800 nits here. This is the closest metric to something like watching sports in a well-lit room.

arghwhat 3y ago
rtings "real scene" brightness is a better measure than 100% sustained - I think some brightness limiting is acceptable for a fully white screen. Still, that's 500 for the those OLED sets vs 1200 for the QN90B.

arghwhat 3y ago

Both of those tests report real SDR brightness of 500 nits, or 600 for 10% sustained. The QN90B test reports 1200 nits and 2000 (!) nits respectively: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90b-qled https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90b-qled Real scene SDR brightness is all that matters for use in a bright room, as it represents the overall brightness of the screen when playing normal content. HDR brightness on the other hand is only observed in certain scenes of particular HDR content mastered to use it - not to mention that such HDR content is more likely to be consumed in a dark room to enjoy the darker details not present in SDR. I think the limiting factor right now on those new OLED sets is thermal throttling and power limits. But all is not bad - it shows great promise of near a future where self-emissive panels have food brightness.