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The (tinfoil hat?) thing about the thing is: Does Samsung actually want their TVs to survive a whole 10 years?
by RamRodification 3y ago
The (tinfoil hat?) thing about the thing is: Does Samsung actually want their TVs to survive a whole 10 years?
- golergka 3y agoDo consumers want to pay the premium for such a TV? And would those that do choose Samsung?
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoThe problem is Trust. Consumers don't trust manufavturers. If I pay 2x premium I have zero trust the product is better made or will last longer. My $300 laptop worked for 10 years, $3000 laptop has issues after 2 years. We have a Toshiba TV that has lasted 15 years. Kinda getting to the end of it's usefull life - its 720p. On the other hand, I don't expect image technology to advance at the same rate any more, we are at the usefull limit of resolution for example. So maybe if I was buying today, I would actually keep the TV for 20 years.
- golergka 3y ago> Consumers don't trust manufavturers. If I pay 2x premium I have zero trust the product is better made or will last longer. My $300 laptop worked for 10 years, $3000 laptop has issues after 2 years. I'm confused — why are you talking about trusting "manufacturers" as a whole? Isn't the whole point of your anecdote that one manufacturer is trustworthy and the other is not?
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoAs far as I am concerned, none of them can be trusted. For me there is no way to know which product is designed to last - I bought a few that are, by random chance alone. Well maybe there are a handful, in some markets, but Miele does not make TVs
- golergka 3y agoI don't really know much about TVs, but in my experience, Apple certainly makes long-lasting products — my 2008 and 2012 macbooks and 2014 phone are still in good shape, albeit with dead batteries. In cars, from a second-hand experience (I don't drive and hope to never start), Volvo still has great quality. Personally, I know more about clothes. Once you switch from fast fashion (Zara, Bershka, Uniqlo) to quality brands (for me, it's Rick Owens, Margiela, Thom Krom and McQueen, adjust for your personal style), they do last a lot longer — I still wear T-shirts that I bought in 2016. However, it means that I shop much less often, own much less clothes and they're all the same style (and the same colour — full black). And I see that people pay lip service to degrading quality, but what majority of them _actually_ want is a lot of regular dopamine from shopping and a wide variety of garments. You can eat out at fast-food everyday, or spend the same budget to eat at a Michelin-stared place once a couple of weeks (1 star; 2 or 3 stars it would be once a month or more). People tend to choose the former, but then blame "the industry" for their own choices.
- oblio 3y agoThat's the thing about the thing about the thing, I have a 10 year old Samsung LCD that's just fine.
- nisegami 3y agoIs it actually just fine, or have you not noticed the slow and gradual degradation of its color accuracy and brightness?
- oblio 3y agoI haven't noticed it. So it's not a problem. I DO notice OLED burn-in, so that <<is>> a problem.
- memcg 3y agoI have 7 LN46A's now and left over parts from others that had panel defects.
- gary_0 3y agoConsidering that most of them are Internet-connected now, they can just stop patching the firmware to obsolete them. TV takes 10 minutes to load Netflix because it's part of a botnet? Better buy a new one.
- edgineer 3y agoWith smartphones this would be a problem. With TVs you do still always have the option to use it disconnected/dumb with your own computer, chromecast, TV box, console, whatever.
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- tirpen 3y agoOh, Samsung are already "accidentally" sending out broken patches to TVs that happen to brick them. Coincidentally this happens just a few months after their warranty expires. Whoopsie! It happened to me and it happened to a friend of mine, just a few months apart. Never ever connect a Samsung TV to the Internet under any circumstances.
- vel0city 3y agoI'll take it one step further: never plug in a Samsung TV. Or better yet, never let one into your home.
- Swenrekcah 3y agoThis might backfire in EU countries since EU consumer protection laws require extended warranty for devices expected to last longer. For TVs it's 5 years I believe. So if they're bricked after two years you could take it to the retailer.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoIf a corporation like Samsung became evil, I wonder if they could make a bunch of money running a DDOS botnet and attacking other casinos or something.