data objects have to be dumb, the managers don't. both C# and Java can be used in a sane way, but ... at what cost, right!? C# is tied too much to the regular

data objects have to be dumb, the managers don't. both C# and Java can be used in a sane way, but ... at what cost, right!? C# is tied too much to the regular MS circus, and it's just a few more years and Java will finally be great! oh wait. of course, actual, real-world walking-talking problems can be solved in both of these ecosystems, but ... almost always the real constraints are not the actual language. (... trying to do HFT with a JIT-less language, or some other faux pas)