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Its "big government" shutting down unnecessary public spend?

by ethagknight 3y ago

esalman 3y ago
Big government should not decide how public universities spend their money.
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  Public universities. Who else is going to decide how they spend their money? They're part of the government.
  - esalman 3y ago
    If you poll the public where the public universities are located, e.g. the major metropolitan areas, you'll probably find the majority support progressive agenda.
    - shapenamer 3y ago
      Why poll when you could actually vote and elect! Oh they do.
      - esalman 3y ago
        Yes, and Texas governor is flexing his big government hands by imposing state laws on progressive institutions and local constituencies because there's an impasse over property tax legislation a.k.a dick measuring contest going on and he has to throw his hat in the ring, and he does not like progressives anyway.
  - growse 3y ago
    > Public universities. Who else is going to decide how they spend their money? They're part of the government. Small Government is as much about localism as it is about reducing the size of the government. So having a state-level legislature meddle in the inner workings of a university is absolutely Big Government.
    - defen 3y ago
      This is a pointless discussion. Even if it is Big Government (debatable), thinking that you're going to "gotcha" Republicans on their hypocrisy will have about as much effect as Republicans saying "See, Democrats are the REAL racists" in response to some policy that ostensibly harms Black people. This is a policy move designed to destroy a politically vulnerable patronage network on the other side. If the voters think this is bad policy they should vote in new politicians.
    - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
      It's a state university. It's funded by the state. Of course the state government is going to have oversight. If Austin wants the say in how a university is run, let Austin fund it.
    - Ekaros 3y ago
      Small government would not have public universities... So maybe that would be first step for one.
    - red-iron-pine 3y ago
      > Small Government is as much about localism as it is about reducing the size of the government. "Small Governments" have no rights outside of what the Federal and State constitutions give them. This is known as the Dillon Rule. Localism also is debatable, since many of these big state Texas Unis are in big cities, e.g. U Texas is in the state capital of Austin -- right next to the state legislature. Other U T branch campuses are in other big cities but are ultimately part of the UT system.
- bitshiftfaced 3y ago
  Who should decide how public universities spend taxpayer money?

Its "big government" shutting down unnecessary public spend?

esalman 3y ago

Big government should not decide how public universities spend their money.

AnimalMuppet 3y ago
Public universities. Who else is going to decide how they spend their money? They're part of the government.
- esalman 3y ago
  If you poll the public where the public universities are located, e.g. the major metropolitan areas, you'll probably find the majority support progressive agenda.
  - shapenamer 3y ago
    Why poll when you could actually vote and elect! Oh they do.
    - esalman 3y ago
      Yes, and Texas governor is flexing his big government hands by imposing state laws on progressive institutions and local constituencies because there's an impasse over property tax legislation a.k.a dick measuring contest going on and he has to throw his hat in the ring, and he does not like progressives anyway.
- growse 3y ago
  > Public universities. Who else is going to decide how they spend their money? They're part of the government. Small Government is as much about localism as it is about reducing the size of the government. So having a state-level legislature meddle in the inner workings of a university is absolutely Big Government.
  - defen 3y ago
    This is a pointless discussion. Even if it is Big Government (debatable), thinking that you're going to "gotcha" Republicans on their hypocrisy will have about as much effect as Republicans saying "See, Democrats are the REAL racists" in response to some policy that ostensibly harms Black people. This is a policy move designed to destroy a politically vulnerable patronage network on the other side. If the voters think this is bad policy they should vote in new politicians.
  - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
    It's a state university. It's funded by the state. Of course the state government is going to have oversight. If Austin wants the say in how a university is run, let Austin fund it.
  - Ekaros 3y ago
    Small government would not have public universities... So maybe that would be first step for one.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    > Small Government is as much about localism as it is about reducing the size of the government. "Small Governments" have no rights outside of what the Federal and State constitutions give them. This is known as the Dillon Rule. Localism also is debatable, since many of these big state Texas Unis are in big cities, e.g. U Texas is in the state capital of Austin -- right next to the state legislature. Other U T branch campuses are in other big cities but are ultimately part of the UT system.
bitshiftfaced 3y ago
Who should decide how public universities spend taxpayer money?