> But instead of wanting dialog he just steamrolls her with his straw man idea of “ban all plastics” "You said that you want to end all plastic manufacturing?"

> But instead of wanting dialog he just steamrolls her with his straw man idea of “ban all plastics” "You said that you want to end all plastic manufacturing?" "I said the plastics industry must be stopped." "So does that mean end plastic manufacturing?" "I mean, in my dream world, sure." She's committing the motte-and-bailey fallacy, and he's trying to pin her to a specific position.