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Ruiners of all good things incoming... It's cool, but dealing with bad-faith participants is what is really difficult about these types of exercises. It works

Ruiners of all good things incoming... It's cool, but dealing with bad-faith participants is what is really difficult about these types of exercises. It works great until the hurt people find it, and then the hurt people hurt people -- perpetuating their sadness unto others by upvoting the bad things.

chungy 3y ago
It's a silly web site that means nothing. If you attribute hurt or sadness to the result on it, that's not the fault of anyone else.
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mjamesaustin 3y ago
Went to the Leaderboard and Hitler is currently in 10th place. So yeah, that happened quickly. :/
- jedberg 3y ago
  It's moving around a lot, because Hitler was in first place about 90 seconds before you posted this.
  - mkagenius 3y ago
    Its at 2031 elo now, while the closest to it is 1500 elo. Lot of catching up to do but I think there is still good chance to catch it before it becomes much harder.
    - alecco 3y ago
      I could see this as real-life version of The Office episode where they stop working to decide if Hilary Swank is hot or not. Busy Monday, I guess. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Family_Paper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Family_Paper
- ralphstodomingo 3y ago
  Currently in first now
- LeifCarrotson 3y ago
  Aaand now he's in first, with over 2000 ELO, far above the Earth, oxygen, or sex, which each have barely 1500.
- lwansbrough 3y ago
  I don't think higher rating is an endorsement. The question is only: which do you rank higher? I think Adolf Hitler ranks quite highly on notoriety, especially if the comparison is inherently notorious (ie. Hitler vs. Jeffrey Epstein.) So I'm not sure Hitler ranking highly is in bad faith.
  - ctvo 3y ago
    > So I'm not sure Hitler ranking highly is in bad faith. I think they may be ranking Hitler the artist or Hitler the leader surely. It can't possibly be the more simple explanation of the internet being full of trolls who think anonymous graffiti is funny. Why is it only on HN that this sort of contortion happens?
    - ninjanomnom 3y ago
      ELO in most contexts is a sort of "strength" rating so I decided when doing a few dozen that I would choose whichever had more impact on history. Or to put it another way, I was choosing the thing that would cause the most differences if it didn't exist. In my case I got Hitler vs Electricity so the latter is the obvious choice but anyone else using the same criteria as me has perfectly good reason to choose Hitler over some random sport team or most other individuals. Though yes it's the internet, so it's probably mostly people doing it for the funny.
      - Hoyadonis 3y ago
        Maybe the site needs a quick explainer of what Elo ranking is. Perhaps people should have to pass a multiple choice question about it before they can start ranking. Conflating Elo ranking with goodness is shockingly dimwitted - I'd think it much below Hacker News commentators, but apparently that's not the case. Of course Hitler would have a high Elo ranking; he's objectively one of the most powerful and influential humans of all time.
  - bee_rider 3y ago
    I think a more likely answer is that people are not taking it very seriously, and are just picking Hitler as a troll answer.
mellonaut 3y ago
within 15min of you posting this, hitler has become the #1 ranked thing on the leaderboard
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screye 3y ago
Naah, it's simple things like these that are fun. Choosing Rice instead of Einstein was the highlight of my day.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Golden State Warriors or Covid-19? Easy choice.
  - screye 3y ago
    I am glad that Hitler isn't #1 on this list anymore. Because Hitler, despite his best efforts, could only be a distant 2nd when pitted again the true #1 best human being : Rupert Murdoch.
  - tnecniv 3y ago
    I got The Bosnian Genocide and the Dallas Cowboys and that one was a tough call…
- berbec 3y ago
  The girl with a pearl earring vs kidney stone disease tripped me up for a μs or three.
- incahoots 3y ago
  It was rice or Elon for me lol
  - Maxion 3y ago
    Taiwan vs international trade and Taiwan vs Twitter verification were both wild thought experiments
- dr_pyser 3y ago
  I mean, billions of people have lived because of rice, so I don’t think it’s necessarily even a bad take.
schappim 3y ago
What? You’re telling me that Rupert Murdoch #1 with 1337 matches is not a coincidence[1]? [1] https://imgur.com/a/mQFsg7x https://imgur.com/a/mQFsg7x
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chungy 3y ago

It's a silly web site that means nothing. If you attribute hurt or sadness to the result on it, that's not the fault of anyone else.

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mjamesaustin 3y ago

Went to the Leaderboard and Hitler is currently in 10th place. So yeah, that happened quickly. :/

jedberg 3y ago
It's moving around a lot, because Hitler was in first place about 90 seconds before you posted this.
- mkagenius 3y ago
  Its at 2031 elo now, while the closest to it is 1500 elo. Lot of catching up to do but I think there is still good chance to catch it before it becomes much harder.
  - alecco 3y ago
    I could see this as real-life version of The Office episode where they stop working to decide if Hilary Swank is hot or not. Busy Monday, I guess. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Family_Paper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Family_Paper
ralphstodomingo 3y ago
Currently in first now
LeifCarrotson 3y ago
Aaand now he's in first, with over 2000 ELO, far above the Earth, oxygen, or sex, which each have barely 1500.
lwansbrough 3y ago
I don't think higher rating is an endorsement. The question is only: which do you rank higher? I think Adolf Hitler ranks quite highly on notoriety, especially if the comparison is inherently notorious (ie. Hitler vs. Jeffrey Epstein.) So I'm not sure Hitler ranking highly is in bad faith.
- ctvo 3y ago
  > So I'm not sure Hitler ranking highly is in bad faith. I think they may be ranking Hitler the artist or Hitler the leader surely. It can't possibly be the more simple explanation of the internet being full of trolls who think anonymous graffiti is funny. Why is it only on HN that this sort of contortion happens?
  - ninjanomnom 3y ago
    ELO in most contexts is a sort of "strength" rating so I decided when doing a few dozen that I would choose whichever had more impact on history. Or to put it another way, I was choosing the thing that would cause the most differences if it didn't exist. In my case I got Hitler vs Electricity so the latter is the obvious choice but anyone else using the same criteria as me has perfectly good reason to choose Hitler over some random sport team or most other individuals. Though yes it's the internet, so it's probably mostly people doing it for the funny.
    - Hoyadonis 3y ago
      Maybe the site needs a quick explainer of what Elo ranking is. Perhaps people should have to pass a multiple choice question about it before they can start ranking. Conflating Elo ranking with goodness is shockingly dimwitted - I'd think it much below Hacker News commentators, but apparently that's not the case. Of course Hitler would have a high Elo ranking; he's objectively one of the most powerful and influential humans of all time.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  I think a more likely answer is that people are not taking it very seriously, and are just picking Hitler as a troll answer.

mellonaut 3y ago

within 15min of you posting this, hitler has become the #1 ranked thing on the leaderboard

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screye 3y ago

Naah, it's simple things like these that are fun. Choosing Rice instead of Einstein was the highlight of my day.

bombcar 3y ago
Golden State Warriors or Covid-19? Easy choice.
- screye 3y ago
  I am glad that Hitler isn't #1 on this list anymore. Because Hitler, despite his best efforts, could only be a distant 2nd when pitted again the true #1 best human being : Rupert Murdoch.
- tnecniv 3y ago
  I got The Bosnian Genocide and the Dallas Cowboys and that one was a tough call…
berbec 3y ago
The girl with a pearl earring vs kidney stone disease tripped me up for a μs or three.
incahoots 3y ago
It was rice or Elon for me lol
- Maxion 3y ago
  Taiwan vs international trade and Taiwan vs Twitter verification were both wild thought experiments
dr_pyser 3y ago
I mean, billions of people have lived because of rice, so I don’t think it’s necessarily even a bad take.

schappim 3y ago

What? You’re telling me that Rupert Murdoch #1 with 1337 matches is not a coincidence[1]? [1] https://imgur.com/a/mQFsg7x https://imgur.com/a/mQFsg7x

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