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10 years ago, I’d be all over this. Nowadays, I have so many other more important things that I have no interest in the mental load that comes with Lemmy. Lemm

10 years ago, I’d be all over this. Nowadays, I have so many other more important things that I have no interest in the mental load that comes with Lemmy. Lemmy’s type of social media is mindless, timing filling. Having to figure out the nuance of federation defeats the entire point. Further, the primary reason for federation seems to be anti-censorship. While there are absolutely cases where censorship is applied to destroy/control, most of the topics I engage in on social media have little to no censorship. It seems like the only people that care about “avoiding a central authority” are those looking to stir hate and trouble on social media.

newZWhoDis 3y ago
> most of the topics I engage in on social media have little to no censorship. How would you know that?
- supertrope 3y ago
  The usual suspects are porn, gambling, illegal drugs, copyright infringement, National Socialism.
- SkyPuncher 3y ago
  It'd be impossible to prove, but the types of topics I utilize social media for simply don't tend to correlate with highly-controlled/highly-censored topics. Generally, highly-censored topics result in alternative communities in grey areas of the web. I just don't see those types of communities popping up for wood working, programming, or the sports that I enjoy.
nulld3v 3y ago
> Further, the primary reason for federation seems to be anti-censorship. While there are absolutely cases where censorship is applied to destroy/control, most of the topics I engage in on social media have little to no censorship. It seems like the only people that care about “avoiding a central authority” are those looking to stir hate and trouble on social media. There's plenty of censorship on many large Reddit subs already. Just look at the difference between r/worldnews and r/anime_titties (which is also world news, name is misleading). There's already a ton of posts on HN about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318521 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318521
- bacchusracine 3y ago
  >There's plenty of censorship on many large Reddit subs already. Just look at the difference between r/worldnews and r/anime_titties (which is also world news, name is misleading). No, see, since it hasn't effected them (yet?)there is no good faith reason to be against censorship. The only ones effected by it or worried by it are the wrongthinkers and bad people and who cares about them?
  - SkyPuncher 3y ago
    That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view.
    - bacchusracine 3y ago
      > That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view. Apologies for not being more clear but I was actually agreeing with you from the sarcastic viewpoint of the person you were replying to.
      - SkyPuncher 3y ago
        Apologies. Your impression of the argument was so spot on that I couldn't actually read the sarcasm in it :P Just to be clear, I think there are bad forms of censorship. My point is simply my use of social media tends to not overlap with the places where those bad forms of censorship occur.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  I mean, my local town's sub, ostensibly a very general-purpose place to ask and answer questions, share news and event info, in practice is quite left-leaning (college town) and heavy handed with permanent bans. Trump or even anything nominally Republican is right out, which is fine in that they are off-topic in a locally-focused sub, but you can praise Biden and Democrats all day. Even trying to have a very civil debate on local political and business topics is like walking on eggshells if you aren't supporting the popular point of view, but everything up to outright slander is tolerated in the other direction.

newZWhoDis 3y ago

> most of the topics I engage in on social media have little to no censorship. How would you know that?

supertrope 3y ago
The usual suspects are porn, gambling, illegal drugs, copyright infringement, National Socialism.
SkyPuncher 3y ago
It'd be impossible to prove, but the types of topics I utilize social media for simply don't tend to correlate with highly-controlled/highly-censored topics. Generally, highly-censored topics result in alternative communities in grey areas of the web. I just don't see those types of communities popping up for wood working, programming, or the sports that I enjoy.

nulld3v 3y ago

> Further, the primary reason for federation seems to be anti-censorship. While there are absolutely cases where censorship is applied to destroy/control, most of the topics I engage in on social media have little to no censorship. It seems like the only people that care about “avoiding a central authority” are those looking to stir hate and trouble on social media. There's plenty of censorship on many large Reddit subs already. Just look at the difference between r/worldnews and r/anime_titties (which is also world news, name is misleading). There's already a ton of posts on HN about this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318521 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28318521

bacchusracine 3y ago
>There's plenty of censorship on many large Reddit subs already. Just look at the difference between r/worldnews and r/anime_titties (which is also world news, name is misleading). No, see, since it hasn't effected them (yet?)there is no good faith reason to be against censorship. The only ones effected by it or worried by it are the wrongthinkers and bad people and who cares about them?
- SkyPuncher 3y ago
  That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view.
  - bacchusracine 3y ago
    > That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view. Apologies for not being more clear but I was actually agreeing with you from the sarcastic viewpoint of the person you were replying to.
    - SkyPuncher 3y ago
      Apologies. Your impression of the argument was so spot on that I couldn't actually read the sarcasm in it :P Just to be clear, I think there are bad forms of censorship. My point is simply my use of social media tends to not overlap with the places where those bad forms of censorship occur.
SoftTalker 3y ago
I mean, my local town's sub, ostensibly a very general-purpose place to ask and answer questions, share news and event info, in practice is quite left-leaning (college town) and heavy handed with permanent bans. Trump or even anything nominally Republican is right out, which is fine in that they are off-topic in a locally-focused sub, but you can praise Biden and Democrats all day. Even trying to have a very civil debate on local political and business topics is like walking on eggshells if you aren't supporting the popular point of view, but everything up to outright slander is tolerated in the other direction.