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Hot/cold was factored in not the AC or power needs. I don't know many places you could just casually ask for 100+ racks. Maybe our midwest datacenters are just

by jabart 3y ago

Hot/cold was factored in not the AC or power needs. I don't know many places you could just casually ask for 100+ racks. Maybe our midwest datacenters are just smaller than what is on the coast.

hinkley 3y ago
The last place I worked that had that kind of capacity, I had access to the lobby of that building and that was about it. The server room I could access had space for <wiggles fingers> maybe 15-20 racks and in fact had maybe 7, which is probably why it was always cold as fuck in there and I didn’t like being in there much. Then there was a contract which had a server room twice the size and mostly contained an AS/3<mumble> and a couple racks of Intel hardware. You could probably get a ping pong table into that one. Giant rooms that are mostly white and too cold are a little freaky, and reminiscent of 2001. There have been a number of stories of people not being able to utilize their floor space for more servers because they ran out of space on the roof for AC units. At one point I recall Google was working on power dissipation because they had hit the max electrical code, and so no one would agree to run more power into their buildings. More servers meant more compute per watt and per ton of chillers.
- jabart 3y ago
  AWS has a talk about things like this. They were, no idea if they still do, setup an AZ based on MWH figure for most efficiency because any higher the power company doesn't like it. Our local DC the water cooling and refrigerant cooling is larger than the 5 generators they have. I've crammed a lot of servers in my rack and I'm out of power plugs but still under 2kwh of what we are on contract for. Dense servers have really messed with datacenters.
littlestymaar 3y ago
> I don't know many places you could just casually ask for 100+ racks. That's obviously not something you can do on a whim, but at the same time we're talking about a seven figures investment plus the time to build the in-house team to manage this, so it's not going to happen overnight anyway.

by jabart 3y ago

Hot/cold was factored in not the AC or power needs. I don't know many places you could just casually ask for 100+ racks. Maybe our midwest datacenters are just smaller than what is on the coast.

hinkley 3y ago

The last place I worked that had that kind of capacity, I had access to the lobby of that building and that was about it. The server room I could access had space for <wiggles fingers> maybe 15-20 racks and in fact had maybe 7, which is probably why it was always cold as fuck in there and I didn’t like being in there much. Then there was a contract which had a server room twice the size and mostly contained an AS/3<mumble> and a couple racks of Intel hardware. You could probably get a ping pong table into that one. Giant rooms that are mostly white and too cold are a little freaky, and reminiscent of 2001. There have been a number of stories of people not being able to utilize their floor space for more servers because they ran out of space on the roof for AC units. At one point I recall Google was working on power dissipation because they had hit the max electrical code, and so no one would agree to run more power into their buildings. More servers meant more compute per watt and per ton of chillers.

jabart 3y ago
AWS has a talk about things like this. They were, no idea if they still do, setup an AZ based on MWH figure for most efficiency because any higher the power company doesn't like it. Our local DC the water cooling and refrigerant cooling is larger than the 5 generators they have. I've crammed a lot of servers in my rack and I'm out of power plugs but still under 2kwh of what we are on contract for. Dense servers have really messed with datacenters.

littlestymaar 3y ago

> I don't know many places you could just casually ask for 100+ racks. That's obviously not something you can do on a whim, but at the same time we're talking about a seven figures investment plus the time to build the in-house team to manage this, so it's not going to happen overnight anyway.