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A CBS article identified this company’s sub as the one involved; https://twitter.com/OceanGateExped https://twitter.com/OceanGateExped

OJFord 3y ago
So does the submitted article.
- mtmail 3y ago
  The sentence with company name was added later, I still have the browser tab open when it was submitted to HN. It used to say "Multi day trips to the wreck cost tens of thousands of dollars and one dive to Titanic." Now it mentions the company and more accurate pricing.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Makes me wish for an extension that would temporarily - for a few days or weeks - cache everything you see under a given URL[0], and 1) tell you if the content changed since your last visit, 2) allow you to browse history of versions, and, importantly, 3) diff entries in that history. Plenty of times I had a vague hunch the page said something slightly or perhaps entirely different just minutes or hours earlier, but have no easy way of checking it. Even if I have it opened in another tab, most likely the browser already decided to unload the content and reloads the page when I try to view it. Bonus points if it could sync across devices - e.g. between phone and desktop using Firefox sync. Even recently, I had a situation where I was convinced someone edited their HN comment to say something 180° opposite to what it said earlier, in the 30 minutes between me reading it on a phone, and then reading it on a desktop later. Of course, the phone tab unloaded itself long ago, so I have no way of checking if it indeed happened, or was it just my brain misreading it the first time... -- [0] - +/- ignoring or employing some workarounds for SPAs that don't update URLs when the page content changes, or don't even use URLs to locate content in the first place.
aborochoff 3y ago
Fascinating theyre relying on starlink for operations. I heard starlink was fairly unreliable from folks who have it in remote areas.
- dboreham 3y ago
  One data point from me: it's not unreliable.
  - dreamcompiler 3y ago
    Likewise for me. However, I'm on land, where the Starlink satellites don't have to relay comms between each other. It's a completely different story out in the middle of the ocean. Starlink only recently started their laser-based relay system, and I have not heard reports about its reliability. It might work great, I don't know. I do know that it was a difficult engineering problem to solve.
- samtho 3y ago
  I wouldn’t say they’re relying on it for operations. It’s not like they doing some internet controlled submersible, it is still watercraft with someone at the helm and more than likely, they use some type of local communication for the surface crew to communicate with the expedition crew.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  What better alternatives would they have in the middle of the ocean?
  - paulgb 3y ago
    More traditional satellite networks, I guess? As I understand it, this is what sailors do / did before starlink. This had me curious if I could find coverage maps of satellite operators, and I found this: https://www.satphonestore.com/coveragemaps https://www.satphonestore.com/coveragemaps
    - 3y ago

OJFord 3y ago

So does the submitted article.

mtmail 3y ago
The sentence with company name was added later, I still have the browser tab open when it was submitted to HN. It used to say "Multi day trips to the wreck cost tens of thousands of dollars and one dive to Titanic." Now it mentions the company and more accurate pricing.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Makes me wish for an extension that would temporarily - for a few days or weeks - cache everything you see under a given URL[0], and 1) tell you if the content changed since your last visit, 2) allow you to browse history of versions, and, importantly, 3) diff entries in that history. Plenty of times I had a vague hunch the page said something slightly or perhaps entirely different just minutes or hours earlier, but have no easy way of checking it. Even if I have it opened in another tab, most likely the browser already decided to unload the content and reloads the page when I try to view it. Bonus points if it could sync across devices - e.g. between phone and desktop using Firefox sync. Even recently, I had a situation where I was convinced someone edited their HN comment to say something 180° opposite to what it said earlier, in the 30 minutes between me reading it on a phone, and then reading it on a desktop later. Of course, the phone tab unloaded itself long ago, so I have no way of checking if it indeed happened, or was it just my brain misreading it the first time... -- [0] - +/- ignoring or employing some workarounds for SPAs that don't update URLs when the page content changes, or don't even use URLs to locate content in the first place.

aborochoff 3y ago

Fascinating theyre relying on starlink for operations. I heard starlink was fairly unreliable from folks who have it in remote areas.

dboreham 3y ago
One data point from me: it's not unreliable.
- dreamcompiler 3y ago
  Likewise for me. However, I'm on land, where the Starlink satellites don't have to relay comms between each other. It's a completely different story out in the middle of the ocean. Starlink only recently started their laser-based relay system, and I have not heard reports about its reliability. It might work great, I don't know. I do know that it was a difficult engineering problem to solve.
samtho 3y ago
I wouldn’t say they’re relying on it for operations. It’s not like they doing some internet controlled submersible, it is still watercraft with someone at the helm and more than likely, they use some type of local communication for the surface crew to communicate with the expedition crew.
carlosjobim 3y ago
What better alternatives would they have in the middle of the ocean?
- paulgb 3y ago
  More traditional satellite networks, I guess? As I understand it, this is what sailors do / did before starlink. This had me curious if I could find coverage maps of satellite operators, and I found this: https://www.satphonestore.com/coveragemaps https://www.satphonestore.com/coveragemaps
  - 3y ago